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Re: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)Date:
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Hi Rick,
That is what I do now. I have not done the double click, but I seemed to not have success with it, but have 3 projects to do this week, due Thursday, so I will see what happens.
I shut off everything and it seems to work most of the time. but if you change control names in the text file and load the project again, it sometimes does not like that and it really goes bonkers.
so, when doing any notepad changes make sure control names stay the same and make the changes first in the design menu and not the notepad.
Thank you for all your tips for they have helped a lot and maybe I will look into writing a script for this sighted world app, for Microsoft was surely not looking out for the visually impaired...
Yet, do they ever look out for customers??? Laugh Out Loud!
Bruce
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)
Hi Bruce and Rod:
For the vb.net a couple of techniques I use to work around, mostely, that nasty error window.
1) Type in some code you expect to compile clean.
If you call subroutines or functions type their stubs in before you type the code that calls them or you will get errors.
2) When done typing bring up the error window from under the View menu or use it's hot key if there is one set.
Focus is in the Error ListBox but You cant read it with the normal inverted t cursor keys.
Route mouse to the error list (insert-Plus).
Then up or down mouse and try and read the errors which should include a short description and the method and line number of each error - at least for some of them.
3) Double click one of the messages and determine if it is the line in question or if it is a result of another error, for example you get a syntax error if you try and call a method that doesnt exist so may need to add that method rather than fix your line of code.
4) here is a trick, When you start fixing the error dont hit enter but just use the inverted t cursor keys and normal typing to fix other errors you are aware of if you dont have to hit enter.
When you have to hit enter to get a line break just view the Error List again from under the View Menu, double click another error and continue typing until you need to hit enter again and so on...
The trick here is to fix or type what you can without causing the automatic compile to take place.
If I am creating a large block of code , especially code iwht several methods or method stubs, I often create it or copy snipet code into NotePad, make changes and paste into vb.net's Code Editor when I think it looks ok for checking for errors using the above method to fix them.
The Error Window is perhaps the worst headache of the VS IDE for WindowEyes users but I believe could be scripted to behave much better if anyone ever tackles scripting that puppy.
For example, dont have we speak it, dont allow focus to it but instead create a wE Dialog list with the errors. If the Error Window Pops Up have we ignore it. I am not a real scriptor but I think that should be doable.
Anyway, I hope you dont get too many grey hairs trying to work around that nasty popup, focus grabbing piece of carp - a bottom feeding fish grin.
Rick USA
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From: BX
To: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)
Hi Again Rod,
About the Master Volume stuff, I wrote something in Python to use for my games. It does have volume control for the object you are running. You can do other things with it like Queuing and stuff. Maybe something could be installed for a opened window using it, for it relies on creating an object and running it. I just have not something like that yet outside the Python platform; like making a shared com object. It becomes a large, 4 to 6 meg program when compiled since it needs Python there to run.
Python is fun and the app called PyInstaller does the compiling for you either as a local executable or portable...depending on using the -F flag and has to be in caps.
Take care, thanks for thinking of me.
Bruce
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)
Hi Bruce,
Sorry there’s so much of a struggle going on for you, my friend; it seems unfair, but I suppose “unfair” is the short definition of “life,” eh? Grin. Having dealt with large institutions in my academic and vocational endeavours, I can sure understand your experience of the climate of apathy regarding accommodation: man, the blindness of the sighted world leaves them bumping into walls of consciousness. Smile. But I’m getting the warm and fuzzies to hear you shaming them, which their egos need. High five! Smile.
If you don’t mind, can you tell me the name of your course, where you’re taking it, is it online or on-campus, and all the details about it; sounds like something I’d love to suffer through – well, at least, I’d love to read the course syllabus. You see, if you saw my post on the scripting list, I’m looking for info on getting greater control of the Window sound system; so, the more info, the better. Smile.
Well, I’ll let you go for now, Bruce. Yes, I have been wondering how you are dealing with the course; it’s tough competing in the sighted world, since for everyone in that world, no one is blind. As I said, though, I’m glad you’re being such a sharp thorn in their side, and getting your needs met. Smile.
Hang in there,
Rod :)
From: BX
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 7:52 AM
To: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
Subject: Re: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)
Hi Rod,
Yes, does not college do that to you?
C++ is straight forward and can avoid the IDE. So far 100% on that course.
The Visual Basic is the most time consuming for it takes time to stop it from suggesting things and error messages; even though everything is shut off, supposedly...but I can use it's text editor now as long as I keep the errors down.
Now, this week I got into groups and the text book does not tell you how to get radio buttons into the group, or any control, just drag and drop...
So, when reading the reference manual on Visual Studio, (not provided in the course,) there is just one sentence inside the chapter on controls that mentions, "Selected group" that makes the radio button get inserted in it's group when the tool box is opened up afterwards. I spent all yesterday morning to try and get it to work and finally yesterday afternoon I found it in another book not offered nor mentioned in the course..."The Visual Basic Studio 2010 Reference Manual"
I had mentioned this to the professor and she still took credit off for it, then I sent her an email and she referenced the book and I copied back and said, it is not mentioned there at all...
So, as always, sighted people are given the options and we have to fight for them.
Anyway, I did get it right and was re-writing the project using it before the professor mentioned it in an email she sent around 6:30 last night. I had already finished and tested it. The radio buttons do show up, but hard to read the text because the image of the radio interferes when using the mouse, but there all there. Tabbing of course goes directly to text only so you can easily read the radio text.
The instructor wanted 2 columns where each is a group with radio buttons in both lists...
The only hard part is figuring out what is really being said and it is always a good idea to get more than one source for your information because sooner or mostly likely later you will get the answer.
The fun part about going to college.
Thanks Rod for thinking of me.
Bruce
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)
Hi Bruce,
Many thanks for the encouragement, and for your programming support, as well. I’m feeling pretty good about what I’ve accomplished thus far, and I’m just going to coast a bit, until I find something to study a bit more about. How’s the course you’re taking going? Are you still in it, or did it take more out of you than you could give?
Take care,
Rod
From: BX
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 4:51 PM
To: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
Subject: Re: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)
Hi Rod,
Congratulations, I understand what you are feeling because the Windoweyes VB platform makes it easy to write useful code and I do mean useful code.
If you wanted to look into some other ideas in using voice codes I had written 2 dialog boxes, one for each of my games, Trek and Battleship. I also made my own Include or external file to include script inside both dialogs to upload stuff for using the Windows SAPI stuff that I made into a class that an object can be made from.
I have an option in my Cuckoo clock program to also make voice/sound files which you may also be interested in.
You could download those scripts and study them. At the bottom of each code in the .vbs file is a procedure for extracting files and making a sub folder as well if you need to do that in the future. Along with how to run an external .exe file; which is the games written in Python.
Enjoy the new coding environment for VB is easy to use, at least inside the GW Micro environment.
sincerely
Bruce
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 3:51 PM
Subject: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)
Hi everyone!
I would like to let everyone know about a landmark event for me – the creation of my first app with an actual dialog box, namely, RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0!
The last dialog box I created was 22 years ago, using WordBasic, which was part of Microsoft Word 2.0. Back then, I had sight, and I designed a dialog box an the code for printing odd and even pages of a document because, at that time, this feature did not come with this version of Word. Anyway, the dialog box I designed worked great, but, alas, went the way of the dodo bird, since upgrades made all my work pretty irrelevant. But, it had been fun, and gave me a boost of confidence.
Well, warp speed 22 years into the future, and with GW Micro’s UI Design app, and with the wonderful help of Chip Orange and his amazing classes and examples, I finally got the chance to design another dialog box, learned how to write a dialog event handler, and put a neat little dialog into one of my apps. See the app in action yourself by downloading RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 using AppGet, or use this URL:
https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1388
I have also updated my RodMasterVolumeControlSuite to version 2.0 to include the update of RodMasterVolumePresetRotator, and the URL is:
https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1389
My sincere thanks to GW Micro for their wonderful screen reader, Window-Eyes, for their essential app designing tools like WE Script Framework and UI Design, and a heartfelt bear-hug to Chip Orange, who has been a mentor in my quest to use my PC to its utmost potential as a servant of humankind!
My best to everyone in their personal quests, and have a restful weekend!
Cheers,
Rod Hutton
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi Rick,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> That is what I do now. I have
not done the double click, but I seemed to not have success with it, but have 3
projects to do this week, due Thursday, so I will see what happens.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> I shut off everything and it
seems to work most of the time. but if you change control names in the text file
and load the project again, it sometimes does not like that and it really goes
bonkers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> so, when doing any notepad changes make sure
control names stay the same and make the changes first in the design menu and
not the notepad.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Thank you for all your tips for
they have helped a lot and maybe I will look into writing a script for this
sighted world app, for Microsoft was surely not looking out for the visually
impaired...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Yet, do they ever look out for
customers??? Laugh Out Loud!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>
Bruce</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 01, 2013 7:21
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator
2.0 Released! :)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi Bruce and Rod:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>For the vb.net a couple of techniques I use to
work around, mostely, that nasty error window.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>1) Type in some code you expect to compile
clean.<BR>If you call subroutines or functions type their stubs in before you
type the code that calls them or you will get errors.<BR>2) When done typing
bring up the error window from under the View menu or use it's hot key if
there is one set.<BR>Focus is in the Error ListBox but You cant read it with
the normal inverted t cursor keys.<BR>Route mouse to the error list
(insert-Plus).<BR>Then up or down mouse and try and read the errors
which should include a short description and the method and line number of
each error - at least for some of them.<BR>3) Double click one of the messages
and determine if it is the line in question or if it is a result of another
error, for example you get a syntax error if you try and call a method that
doesnt exist so may need to add that method rather than fix your line of
code.<BR>4) here is a trick, When you start fixing the error dont hit enter
but just use the inverted t cursor keys and normal typing to fix other errors
you are aware of if you dont have to hit enter.<BR>When you have to hit enter
to get a line break just view the Error List again from under the View Menu,
double click another error and continue typing until you need to hit enter
again and so on...<BR>The trick here is to fix or type what you can without
causing the automatic compile to take place.<BR>If I am creating a large block
of code , especially code iwht several methods or method stubs, I often create
it or copy snipet code into NotePad, make changes and paste into
vb.net's Code Editor when I think it looks ok for checking for errors using
the above method to fix them.<BR>The Error Window is perhaps the worst
headache of the VS IDE for WindowEyes users but I believe could be scripted to
behave much better if anyone ever tackles scripting that puppy.<BR>For
example, dont have we speak it, dont allow focus to it but instead create a wE
Dialog list with the errors. If the Error Window Pops Up have we ignore it. I
am not a real scriptor but I think that should be doable.<BR>Anyway, I hope
you dont get too many grey hairs trying to work around that nasty popup, focus
grabbing piece of carp - a bottom feeding fish grin.<BR>Rick USA</FONT><FONT
size=2 face=Arial></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
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<A title=bronx_lab@fltg.net href="mailto:bronx_lab@fltg.net">BX</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
href="mailto:gw-scripting@gwmicro.com">gw-scripting@gwmicro.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 31, 2013 7:08
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re:
RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi Again Rod,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> About the Master Volume
stuff, I wrote something in Python to use for my games. It does have volume
control for the object you are running. You can do other things with it like
Queuing and stuff. Maybe something could be installed for a opened window
using it, for it relies on creating an object and running it. I just have
not something like that yet outside the Python platform; like making a
shared com object. It becomes a large, 4 to 6 meg program when compiled
since it needs Python there to run.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Python is fun and the app
called PyInstaller does the compiling for you either as a local executable
or portable...depending on using the -F flag and has to be in
caps.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Take care, thanks for
thinking of me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>
Bruce</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 31, 2013 5:41
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re:
RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)</DIV>
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<DIV>Hi Bruce,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Sorry there’s so much of a struggle going on for you, my friend; it
seems unfair, but I suppose “unfair” is the short definition of “life,”
eh? Grin. Having dealt with large institutions in my academic and
vocational endeavours, I can sure understand your experience of the
climate of apathy regarding accommodation: man, the blindness of the
sighted world leaves them bumping into walls of consciousness.
Smile. But I’m getting the warm and fuzzies to hear you shaming
them, which their egos need. High five! Smile.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If you don’t mind, can you tell me the name of your course, where
you’re taking it, is it online or on-campus, and all the details about it;
sounds like something I’d love to suffer through – well, at least, I’d
love to read the course syllabus. You see, if you saw my post on the
scripting list, I’m looking for info on getting greater control of the
Window sound system; so, the more info, the better. Smile.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Well, I’ll let you go for now, Bruce. Yes, I have been
wondering how you are dealing with the course; it’s tough competing in the
sighted world, since for everyone in that world, no one is blind. As
I said, though, I’m glad you’re being such a sharp thorn in their side,
and getting your needs met. Smile.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Hang in there,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Rod :)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=bronx_lab@fltg.net
href="mailto:bronx_lab@fltg.net">BX</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 29, 2013 7:52 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
href="mailto:gw-scripting@gwmicro.com">gw-scripting@gwmicro.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released!
:)</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi Rod,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Yes, does not college do
that to you?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> C++ is straight forward
and can avoid the IDE. So far 100% on that course.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> The Visual Basic is the
most time consuming for it takes time to stop it from suggesting things
and error messages; even though everything is shut off, supposedly...but I
can use it's text editor now as long as I keep the errors
down.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Now, this week I got into
groups and the text book does not tell you how to get radio buttons into
the group, or any control, just drag and drop...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> So, when reading the
reference manual on Visual Studio, (not provided in the course,) there is
just one sentence inside the chapter on controls that mentions, "Selected
group" that makes the radio button get inserted in it's group when the
tool box is opened up afterwards. I spent all yesterday morning to try and
get it to work and finally yesterday afternoon I found it in another book
not offered nor mentioned in the course..."The Visual Basic Studio 2010
Reference Manual"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> I had mentioned this to
the professor and she still took credit off for it, then I sent her an
email and she referenced the book and I copied back and said, it is not
mentioned there at all...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> So, as always, sighted
people are given the options and we have to fight for them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Anyway, I did get it right
and was re-writing the project using it before the professor mentioned it
in an email she sent around 6:30 last night. I had already finished and
tested it. The radio buttons do show up, but hard to read the text because
the image of the radio interferes when using the mouse, but there all
there. Tabbing of course goes directly to text only so you can easily read
the radio text.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> The instructor wanted 2
columns where each is a group with radio buttons in both
lists...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> The only hard part is
figuring out what is really being said and it is always a good idea to get
more than one source for your information because sooner or mostly likely
later you will get the answer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> <BR>The fun part about
going to college.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Thanks Rod for thinking of
me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>
Bruce</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 28, 2013
10:07 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re:
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<DIV>Hi Bruce,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Many thanks for the encouragement, and for your programming
support, as well. I’m feeling pretty good about what I’ve
accomplished thus far, and I’m just going to coast a bit, until I find
something to study a bit more about. How’s the course you’re
taking going? Are you still in it, or did it take more out of you
than you could give?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Take care,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Rod <IMG
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=bronx_lab@fltg.net
href="mailto:bronx_lab@fltg.net">BX</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 28, 2013 4:51 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
href="mailto:gw-scripting@gwmicro.com">gw-scripting@gwmicro.com</A>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi Rod,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Congratulations, I
understand what you are feeling because the Windoweyes VB platform makes
it easy to write useful code and I do mean useful code.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> If you wanted to look
into some other ideas in using voice codes I had written 2 dialog boxes,
one for each of my games, Trek and Battleship. I also made my own
Include or external file to include script inside both dialogs to upload
stuff for using the Windows SAPI stuff that I made into a class that an
object can be made from.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> I have an option in my
Cuckoo clock program to also make voice/sound files which you may also
be interested in.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> You could download those
scripts and study them. At the bottom of each code in the .vbs file is a
procedure for extracting files and making a sub folder as well if you
need to do that in the future. Along with how to run an external ..exe
file; which is the games written in Python.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Enjoy the new coding
environment for VB is easy to use, at least inside the GW Micro
environment.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>
sincerely</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>
Bruce</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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3:51 PM</DIV>
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<DIV>Hi everyone! <IMG
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I would like to let everyone know about a landmark event for me –
the creation of my first app with an actual dialog box, namely,
RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0! <IMG
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<DIV>The last dialog box I created was 22 years ago, using WordBasic,
which was part of Microsoft Word 2.0. Back then, I had sight,
and I designed a dialog box an the code for printing odd and even
pages of a document because, at that time, this feature did not come
with this version of Word. Anyway, the dialog box I designed
worked great, but, alas, went the way of the dodo bird, since upgrades
made all my work pretty irrelevant. But, it had been fun, and
gave me a boost of confidence. <IMG
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Well, warp speed 22 years into the future, and with GW Micro’s UI
Design app, and with the wonderful help of Chip Orange and his amazing
classes and examples, I finally got the chance to design another
dialog box, learned how to write a dialog event handler, and put a
neat little dialog into one of my apps. See the app in action
yourself by downloading RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 using AppGet,
or use this URL:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><A
title=https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1388
href="https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1388">https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1388</A></DIV>;
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I have also updated my RodMasterVolumeControlSuite to version 2.0
to include the update of RodMasterVolumePresetRotator, and the URL
is:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><A
title=https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1389
href="https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1389">https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1389</A></DIV>;
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>My sincere thanks to GW Micro for their wonderful screen reader,
Window-Eyes, for their essential app designing tools like WE Script
Framework and UI Design, and a heartfelt bear-hug to Chip Orange, who
has been a mentor in my quest to use my PC to its utmost potential as
a servant of humankind! <IMG
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>My best to everyone in their personal quests, and have a restful
weekend! <IMG
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<DIV>Cheers,</DIV>
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Hi Rick,
That is what I do now. I have not done the double click, but I seemed to not have success with it, but have 3 projects to do this week, due Thursday, so I will see what happens.
I shut off everything and it seems to work most of the time. but if you change control names in the text file and load the project again, it sometimes does not like that and it really goes bonkers.
so, when doing any notepad changes make sure control names stay the same and make the changes first in the design menu and not the notepad.
Thank you for all your tips for they have helped a lot and maybe I will look into writing a script for this sighted world app, for Microsoft was surely not looking out for the visually impaired...
Yet, do they ever look out for customers??? Laugh Out Loud!
Bruce
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)
Hi Bruce and Rod:
For the vb.net a couple of techniques I use to work around, mostely, that nasty error window.
1) Type in some code you expect to compile clean.
If you call subroutines or functions type their stubs in before you type the code that calls them or you will get errors.
2) When done typing bring up the error window from under the View menu or use it's hot key if there is one set.
Focus is in the Error ListBox but You cant read it with the normal inverted t cursor keys.
Route mouse to the error list (insert-Plus).
Then up or down mouse and try and read the errors which should include a short description and the method and line number of each error - at least for some of them.
3) Double click one of the messages and determine if it is the line in question or if it is a result of another error, for example you get a syntax error if you try and call a method that doesnt exist so may need to add that method rather than fix your line of code.
4) here is a trick, When you start fixing the error dont hit enter but just use the inverted t cursor keys and normal typing to fix other errors you are aware of if you dont have to hit enter.
When you have to hit enter to get a line break just view the Error List again from under the View Menu, double click another error and continue typing until you need to hit enter again and so on...
The trick here is to fix or type what you can without causing the automatic compile to take place.
If I am creating a large block of code , especially code iwht several methods or method stubs, I often create it or copy snipet code into NotePad, make changes and paste into vb.net's Code Editor when I think it looks ok for checking for errors using the above method to fix them.
The Error Window is perhaps the worst headache of the VS IDE for WindowEyes users but I believe could be scripted to behave much better if anyone ever tackles scripting that puppy.
For example, dont have we speak it, dont allow focus to it but instead create a wE Dialog list with the errors. If the Error Window Pops Up have we ignore it. I am not a real scriptor but I think that should be doable.
Anyway, I hope you dont get too many grey hairs trying to work around that nasty popup, focus grabbing piece of carp - a bottom feeding fish grin.
Rick USA
----- Original Message -----
From: BX
To: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)
Hi Again Rod,
About the Master Volume stuff, I wrote something in Python to use for my games. It does have volume control for the object you are running. You can do other things with it like Queuing and stuff. Maybe something could be installed for a opened window using it, for it relies on creating an object and running it. I just have not something like that yet outside the Python platform; like making a shared com object. It becomes a large, 4 to 6 meg program when compiled since it needs Python there to run.
Python is fun and the app called PyInstaller does the compiling for you either as a local executable or portable...depending on using the -F flag and has to be in caps.
Take care, thanks for thinking of me.
Bruce
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)
Hi Bruce,
Sorry there’s so much of a struggle going on for you, my friend; it seems unfair, but I suppose “unfair” is the short definition of “life,” eh? Grin. Having dealt with large institutions in my academic and vocational endeavours, I can sure understand your experience of the climate of apathy regarding accommodation: man, the blindness of the sighted world leaves them bumping into walls of consciousness. Smile. But I’m getting the warm and fuzzies to hear you shaming them, which their egos need. High five! Smile.
If you don’t mind, can you tell me the name of your course, where you’re taking it, is it online or on-campus, and all the details about it; sounds like something I’d love to suffer through – well, at least, I’d love to read the course syllabus. You see, if you saw my post on the scripting list, I’m looking for info on getting greater control of the Window sound system; so, the more info, the better. Smile.
Well, I’ll let you go for now, Bruce. Yes, I have been wondering how you are dealing with the course; it’s tough competing in the sighted world, since for everyone in that world, no one is blind. As I said, though, I’m glad you’re being such a sharp thorn in their side, and getting your needs met. Smile.
Hang in there,
Rod :)
From: BX
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 7:52 AM
To: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
Subject: Re: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)
Hi Rod,
Yes, does not college do that to you?
C++ is straight forward and can avoid the IDE. So far 100% on that course.
The Visual Basic is the most time consuming for it takes time to stop it from suggesting things and error messages; even though everything is shut off, supposedly...but I can use it's text editor now as long as I keep the errors down.
Now, this week I got into groups and the text book does not tell you how to get radio buttons into the group, or any control, just drag and drop...
So, when reading the reference manual on Visual Studio, (not provided in the course,) there is just one sentence inside the chapter on controls that mentions, "Selected group" that makes the radio button get inserted in it's group when the tool box is opened up afterwards. I spent all yesterday morning to try and get it to work and finally yesterday afternoon I found it in another book not offered nor mentioned in the course..."The Visual Basic Studio 2010 Reference Manual"
I had mentioned this to the professor and she still took credit off for it, then I sent her an email and she referenced the book and I copied back and said, it is not mentioned there at all...
So, as always, sighted people are given the options and we have to fight for them.
Anyway, I did get it right and was re-writing the project using it before the professor mentioned it in an email she sent around 6:30 last night. I had already finished and tested it. The radio buttons do show up, but hard to read the text because the image of the radio interferes when using the mouse, but there all there. Tabbing of course goes directly to text only so you can easily read the radio text.
The instructor wanted 2 columns where each is a group with radio buttons in both lists...
The only hard part is figuring out what is really being said and it is always a good idea to get more than one source for your information because sooner or mostly likely later you will get the answer.
The fun part about going to college.
Thanks Rod for thinking of me.
Bruce
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)
Hi Bruce,
Many thanks for the encouragement, and for your programming support, as well. I’m feeling pretty good about what I’ve accomplished thus far, and I’m just going to coast a bit, until I find something to study a bit more about. How’s the course you’re taking going? Are you still in it, or did it take more out of you than you could give?
Take care,
Rod
From: BX
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 4:51 PM
To: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
Subject: Re: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)
Hi Rod,
Congratulations, I understand what you are feeling because the Windoweyes VB platform makes it easy to write useful code and I do mean useful code.
If you wanted to look into some other ideas in using voice codes I had written 2 dialog boxes, one for each of my games, Trek and Battleship. I also made my own Include or external file to include script inside both dialogs to upload stuff for using the Windows SAPI stuff that I made into a class that an object can be made from.
I have an option in my Cuckoo clock program to also make voice/sound files which you may also be interested in.
You could download those scripts and study them. At the bottom of each code in the .vbs file is a procedure for extracting files and making a sub folder as well if you need to do that in the future. Along with how to run an external .exe file; which is the games written in Python.
Enjoy the new coding environment for VB is easy to use, at least inside the GW Micro environment.
sincerely
Bruce
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 3:51 PM
Subject: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)
Hi everyone!
I would like to let everyone know about a landmark event for me – the creation of my first app with an actual dialog box, namely, RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0!
The last dialog box I created was 22 years ago, using WordBasic, which was part of Microsoft Word 2.0. Back then, I had sight, and I designed a dialog box an the code for printing odd and even pages of a document because, at that time, this feature did not come with this version of Word. Anyway, the dialog box I designed worked great, but, alas, went the way of the dodo bird, since upgrades made all my work pretty irrelevant. But, it had been fun, and gave me a boost of confidence.
Well, warp speed 22 years into the future, and with GW Micro’s UI Design app, and with the wonderful help of Chip Orange and his amazing classes and examples, I finally got the chance to design another dialog box, learned how to write a dialog event handler, and put a neat little dialog into one of my apps. See the app in action yourself by downloading RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 using AppGet, or use this URL:
https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1388
I have also updated my RodMasterVolumeControlSuite to version 2.0 to include the update of RodMasterVolumePresetRotator, and the URL is:
https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1389
My sincere thanks to GW Micro for their wonderful screen reader, Window-Eyes, for their essential app designing tools like WE Script Framework and UI Design, and a heartfelt bear-hug to Chip Orange, who has been a mentor in my quest to use my PC to its utmost potential as a servant of humankind!
My best to everyone in their personal quests, and have a restful weekend!
Cheers,
Rod Hutton
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi Rick,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> That is what I do now. I have
not done the double click, but I seemed to not have success with it, but have 3
projects to do this week, due Thursday, so I will see what happens.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> I shut off everything and it
seems to work most of the time. but if you change control names in the text file
and load the project again, it sometimes does not like that and it really goes
bonkers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> so, when doing any notepad changes make sure
control names stay the same and make the changes first in the design menu and
not the notepad.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Thank you for all your tips for
they have helped a lot and maybe I will look into writing a script for this
sighted world app, for Microsoft was surely not looking out for the visually
impaired...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Yet, do they ever look out for
customers??? Laugh Out Loud!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>
Bruce</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 01, 2013 7:21
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator
2.0 Released! :)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi Bruce and Rod:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>For the vb.net a couple of techniques I use to
work around, mostely, that nasty error window.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>1) Type in some code you expect to compile
clean.<BR>If you call subroutines or functions type their stubs in before you
type the code that calls them or you will get errors.<BR>2) When done typing
bring up the error window from under the View menu or use it's hot key if
there is one set.<BR>Focus is in the Error ListBox but You cant read it with
the normal inverted t cursor keys.<BR>Route mouse to the error list
(insert-Plus).<BR>Then up or down mouse and try and read the errors
which should include a short description and the method and line number of
each error - at least for some of them.<BR>3) Double click one of the messages
and determine if it is the line in question or if it is a result of another
error, for example you get a syntax error if you try and call a method that
doesnt exist so may need to add that method rather than fix your line of
code.<BR>4) here is a trick, When you start fixing the error dont hit enter
but just use the inverted t cursor keys and normal typing to fix other errors
you are aware of if you dont have to hit enter.<BR>When you have to hit enter
to get a line break just view the Error List again from under the View Menu,
double click another error and continue typing until you need to hit enter
again and so on...<BR>The trick here is to fix or type what you can without
causing the automatic compile to take place.<BR>If I am creating a large block
of code , especially code iwht several methods or method stubs, I often create
it or copy snipet code into NotePad, make changes and paste into
vb.net's Code Editor when I think it looks ok for checking for errors using
the above method to fix them.<BR>The Error Window is perhaps the worst
headache of the VS IDE for WindowEyes users but I believe could be scripted to
behave much better if anyone ever tackles scripting that puppy.<BR>For
example, dont have we speak it, dont allow focus to it but instead create a wE
Dialog list with the errors. If the Error Window Pops Up have we ignore it. I
am not a real scriptor but I think that should be doable.<BR>Anyway, I hope
you dont get too many grey hairs trying to work around that nasty popup, focus
grabbing piece of carp - a bottom feeding fish grin.<BR>Rick USA</FONT><FONT
size=2 face=Arial></FONT></DIV>
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<A title=bronx_lab@fltg.net href="mailto:bronx_lab@fltg.net">BX</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
href="mailto:gw-scripting@gwmicro.com">gw-scripting@gwmicro.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 31, 2013 7:08
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re:
RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi Again Rod,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> About the Master Volume
stuff, I wrote something in Python to use for my games. It does have volume
control for the object you are running. You can do other things with it like
Queuing and stuff. Maybe something could be installed for a opened window
using it, for it relies on creating an object and running it. I just have
not something like that yet outside the Python platform; like making a
shared com object. It becomes a large, 4 to 6 meg program when compiled
since it needs Python there to run.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Python is fun and the app
called PyInstaller does the compiling for you either as a local executable
or portable...depending on using the -F flag and has to be in
caps.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Take care, thanks for
thinking of me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>
Bruce</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 31, 2013 5:41
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re:
RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Hi Bruce,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Sorry there’s so much of a struggle going on for you, my friend; it
seems unfair, but I suppose “unfair” is the short definition of “life,”
eh? Grin. Having dealt with large institutions in my academic and
vocational endeavours, I can sure understand your experience of the
climate of apathy regarding accommodation: man, the blindness of the
sighted world leaves them bumping into walls of consciousness.
Smile. But I’m getting the warm and fuzzies to hear you shaming
them, which their egos need. High five! Smile.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If you don’t mind, can you tell me the name of your course, where
you’re taking it, is it online or on-campus, and all the details about it;
sounds like something I’d love to suffer through – well, at least, I’d
love to read the course syllabus. You see, if you saw my post on the
scripting list, I’m looking for info on getting greater control of the
Window sound system; so, the more info, the better. Smile.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Well, I’ll let you go for now, Bruce. Yes, I have been
wondering how you are dealing with the course; it’s tough competing in the
sighted world, since for everyone in that world, no one is blind. As
I said, though, I’m glad you’re being such a sharp thorn in their side,
and getting your needs met. Smile.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Hang in there,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Rod :)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=bronx_lab@fltg.net
href="mailto:bronx_lab@fltg.net">BX</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 29, 2013 7:52 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
href="mailto:gw-scripting@gwmicro.com">gw-scripting@gwmicro.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released!
:)</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi Rod,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Yes, does not college do
that to you?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> C++ is straight forward
and can avoid the IDE. So far 100% on that course.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> The Visual Basic is the
most time consuming for it takes time to stop it from suggesting things
and error messages; even though everything is shut off, supposedly...but I
can use it's text editor now as long as I keep the errors
down.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Now, this week I got into
groups and the text book does not tell you how to get radio buttons into
the group, or any control, just drag and drop...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> So, when reading the
reference manual on Visual Studio, (not provided in the course,) there is
just one sentence inside the chapter on controls that mentions, "Selected
group" that makes the radio button get inserted in it's group when the
tool box is opened up afterwards. I spent all yesterday morning to try and
get it to work and finally yesterday afternoon I found it in another book
not offered nor mentioned in the course..."The Visual Basic Studio 2010
Reference Manual"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> I had mentioned this to
the professor and she still took credit off for it, then I sent her an
email and she referenced the book and I copied back and said, it is not
mentioned there at all...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> So, as always, sighted
people are given the options and we have to fight for them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Anyway, I did get it right
and was re-writing the project using it before the professor mentioned it
in an email she sent around 6:30 last night. I had already finished and
tested it. The radio buttons do show up, but hard to read the text because
the image of the radio interferes when using the mouse, but there all
there. Tabbing of course goes directly to text only so you can easily read
the radio text.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> The instructor wanted 2
columns where each is a group with radio buttons in both
lists...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> The only hard part is
figuring out what is really being said and it is always a good idea to get
more than one source for your information because sooner or mostly likely
later you will get the answer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> <BR>The fun part about
going to college.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Thanks Rod for thinking of
me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>
Bruce</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 28, 2013
10:07 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re:
RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)</DIV>
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<DIV>Hi Bruce,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Many thanks for the encouragement, and for your programming
support, as well. I’m feeling pretty good about what I’ve
accomplished thus far, and I’m just going to coast a bit, until I find
something to study a bit more about. How’s the course you’re
taking going? Are you still in it, or did it take more out of you
than you could give?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Take care,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Rod <IMG
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=bronx_lab@fltg.net
href="mailto:bronx_lab@fltg.net">BX</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 28, 2013 4:51 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released!
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi Rod,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Congratulations, I
understand what you are feeling because the Windoweyes VB platform makes
it easy to write useful code and I do mean useful code.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> If you wanted to look
into some other ideas in using voice codes I had written 2 dialog boxes,
one for each of my games, Trek and Battleship. I also made my own
Include or external file to include script inside both dialogs to upload
stuff for using the Windows SAPI stuff that I made into a class that an
object can be made from.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> I have an option in my
Cuckoo clock program to also make voice/sound files which you may also
be interested in.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> You could download those
scripts and study them. At the bottom of each code in the .vbs file is a
procedure for extracting files and making a sub folder as well if you
need to do that in the future. Along with how to run an external ..exe
file; which is the games written in Python.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Enjoy the new coding
environment for VB is easy to use, at least inside the GW Micro
environment.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>
sincerely</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>
Bruce</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 28, 2013
3:51 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B>
RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)</DIV>
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<DIV>Hi everyone! <IMG
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<DIV>I would like to let everyone know about a landmark event for me –
the creation of my first app with an actual dialog box, namely,
RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0! <IMG
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<DIV>The last dialog box I created was 22 years ago, using WordBasic,
which was part of Microsoft Word 2.0. Back then, I had sight,
and I designed a dialog box an the code for printing odd and even
pages of a document because, at that time, this feature did not come
with this version of Word. Anyway, the dialog box I designed
worked great, but, alas, went the way of the dodo bird, since upgrades
made all my work pretty irrelevant. But, it had been fun, and
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<DIV>Well, warp speed 22 years into the future, and with GW Micro’s UI
Design app, and with the wonderful help of Chip Orange and his amazing
classes and examples, I finally got the chance to design another
dialog box, learned how to write a dialog event handler, and put a
neat little dialog into one of my apps. See the app in action
yourself by downloading RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 using AppGet,
or use this URL:</DIV>
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<DIV><A
title=https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1388
href="https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1388">https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1388</A></DIV>;
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<DIV>I have also updated my RodMasterVolumeControlSuite to version 2.0
to include the update of RodMasterVolumePresetRotator, and the URL
is:</DIV>
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<DIV><A
title=https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1389
href="https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1389">https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1389</A></DIV>;
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>My sincere thanks to GW Micro for their wonderful screen reader,
Window-Eyes, for their essential app designing tools like WE Script
Framework and UI Design, and a heartfelt bear-hug to Chip Orange, who
has been a mentor in my quest to use my PC to its utmost potential as
a servant of humankind! <IMG
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<DIV>My best to everyone in their personal quests, and have a restful
weekend! <IMG
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<DIV>Cheers,</DIV>
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<DIV>Rod Hutton <IMG
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