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From:

Rod Hutton <rhstuff@sympatico.ca>

Subject:

Re: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)

Date:

Sun, Mar 31, 2013 5:41:08 pm

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Hi Bruce,

Sorry there’s so much of a struggle going on for you, my friend; it seems unfair, but I suppose “unfair” is the short definition of “life,” eh? Grin. Having dealt with large institutions in my academic and vocational endeavours, I can sure understand your experience of the climate of apathy regarding accommodation: man, the blindness of the sighted world leaves them bumping into walls of consciousness. Smile. But I’m getting the warm and fuzzies to hear you shaming them, which their egos need. High five! Smile.

If you don’t mind, can you tell me the name of your course, where you’re taking it, is it online or on-campus, and all the details about it; sounds like something I’d love to suffer through – well, at least, I’d love to read the course syllabus. You see, if you saw my post on the scripting list, I’m looking for info on getting greater control of the Window sound system; so, the more info, the better. Smile.

Well, I’ll let you go for now, Bruce. Yes, I have been wondering how you are dealing with the course; it’s tough competing in the sighted world, since for everyone in that world, no one is blind. As I said, though, I’m glad you’re being such a sharp thorn in their side, and getting your needs met. Smile.

Hang in there,

Rod :)

From: BX
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 7:52 AM
To: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
Subject: Re: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)

Hi Rod,

Yes, does not college do that to you?
C++ is straight forward and can avoid the IDE. So far 100% on that course.
The Visual Basic is the most time consuming for it takes time to stop it from suggesting things and error messages; even though everything is shut off, supposedly...but I can use it's text editor now as long as I keep the errors down.

Now, this week I got into groups and the text book does not tell you how to get radio buttons into the group, or any control, just drag and drop...
So, when reading the reference manual on Visual Studio, (not provided in the course,) there is just one sentence inside the chapter on controls that mentions, "Selected group" that makes the radio button get inserted in it's group when the tool box is opened up afterwards. I spent all yesterday morning to try and get it to work and finally yesterday afternoon I found it in another book not offered nor mentioned in the course..."The Visual Basic Studio 2010 Reference Manual"

I had mentioned this to the professor and she still took credit off for it, then I sent her an email and she referenced the book and I copied back and said, it is not mentioned there at all...

So, as always, sighted people are given the options and we have to fight for them.

Anyway, I did get it right and was re-writing the project using it before the professor mentioned it in an email she sent around 6:30 last night. I had already finished and tested it. The radio buttons do show up, but hard to read the text because the image of the radio interferes when using the mouse, but there all there. Tabbing of course goes directly to text only so you can easily read the radio text.

The instructor wanted 2 columns where each is a group with radio buttons in both lists...

The only hard part is figuring out what is really being said and it is always a good idea to get more than one source for your information because sooner or mostly likely later you will get the answer.

The fun part about going to college.

Thanks Rod for thinking of me.

Bruce

Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)

Hi Bruce,

Many thanks for the encouragement, and for your programming support, as well. I’m feeling pretty good about what I’ve accomplished thus far, and I’m just going to coast a bit, until I find something to study a bit more about. How’s the course you’re taking going? Are you still in it, or did it take more out of you than you could give?

Take care,

Rod

From: BX
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 4:51 PM
To: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
Subject: Re: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)

Hi Rod,

Congratulations, I understand what you are feeling because the Windoweyes VB platform makes it easy to write useful code and I do mean useful code.

If you wanted to look into some other ideas in using voice codes I had written 2 dialog boxes, one for each of my games, Trek and Battleship. I also made my own Include or external file to include script inside both dialogs to upload stuff for using the Windows SAPI stuff that I made into a class that an object can be made from.

I have an option in my Cuckoo clock program to also make voice/sound files which you may also be interested in.

You could download those scripts and study them. At the bottom of each code in the .vbs file is a procedure for extracting files and making a sub folder as well if you need to do that in the future. Along with how to run an external .exe file; which is the games written in Python.

Enjoy the new coding environment for VB is easy to use, at least inside the GW Micro environment.

sincerely
Bruce

Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 3:51 PM
Subject: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released! :)

Hi everyone!

I would like to let everyone know about a landmark event for me – the creation of my first app with an actual dialog box, namely, RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0!

The last dialog box I created was 22 years ago, using WordBasic, which was part of Microsoft Word 2.0. Back then, I had sight, and I designed a dialog box an the code for printing odd and even pages of a document because, at that time, this feature did not come with this version of Word. Anyway, the dialog box I designed worked great, but, alas, went the way of the dodo bird, since upgrades made all my work pretty irrelevant. But, it had been fun, and gave me a boost of confidence.

Well, warp speed 22 years into the future, and with GW Micro’s UI Design app, and with the wonderful help of Chip Orange and his amazing classes and examples, I finally got the chance to design another dialog box, learned how to write a dialog event handler, and put a neat little dialog into one of my apps. See the app in action yourself by downloading RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 using AppGet, or use this URL:

https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1388

I have also updated my RodMasterVolumeControlSuite to version 2.0 to include the update of RodMasterVolumePresetRotator, and the URL is:

https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1389

My sincere thanks to GW Micro for their wonderful screen reader, Window-Eyes, for their essential app designing tools like WE Script Framework and UI Design, and a heartfelt bear-hug to Chip Orange, who has been a mentor in my quest to use my PC to its utmost potential as a servant of humankind!

My best to everyone in their personal quests, and have a restful weekend!

Cheers,

Rod Hutton
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<DIV>Hi Bruce,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Sorry there’s so much of a struggle going on for you, my friend; it seems
unfair, but I suppose “unfair” is the short definition of “life,” eh?
Grin.  Having dealt with large institutions in my academic and vocational
endeavours, I can sure understand your experience of the climate of apathy
regarding accommodation:  man, the blindness of the sighted world leaves
them bumping into walls of consciousness. Smile.  But I’m getting the warm
and fuzzies to hear you shaming them, which their egos need.  High five!
Smile.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If you don’t mind, can you tell me the name of your course, where you’re
taking it, is it online or on-campus, and all the details about it; sounds like
something I’d love to suffer through – well, at least, I’d love to read the
course syllabus.  You see, if you saw my post on the scripting list, I’m
looking for info on getting greater control of the Window sound system; so, the
more info, the better. Smile.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Well, I’ll let you go for now, Bruce.  Yes, I have been wondering how
you are dealing with the course; it’s tough competing in the sighted world,
since for everyone in that world, no one is blind.  As I said, though, I’m
glad you’re being such a sharp thorn in their side, and getting your needs met.
Smile.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Hang in there,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Rod :)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=bronx_lab@fltg.net
href="mailto:bronx_lab@fltg.net">BX</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 29, 2013 7:52 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
href="mailto:gw-scripting@gwmicro.com">gw-scripting@gwmicro.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released!
:)</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi Rod,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>    Yes, does not college do that to
you?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>    C++ is straight forward and can
avoid the IDE. So far 100% on that course.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>    The Visual Basic is the most
time consuming for it takes time to stop it from suggesting things and error
messages; even though everything is shut off, supposedly...but I can use it's
text editor now as long as I keep the errors down.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>    Now, this week I got into groups
and the text book does not tell you how to get radio buttons into the group, or
any control, just drag and drop...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>    So, when reading the reference
manual on Visual Studio, (not provided in the course,) there is just one
sentence inside the chapter on controls that mentions, "Selected group" that
makes the radio button get inserted in it's group when the tool box is opened up
afterwards. I spent all yesterday morning to try and get it to work and finally
yesterday afternoon I found it in another book not offered nor mentioned in the
course..."The Visual Basic Studio 2010 Reference Manual"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>    I had mentioned this to the
professor and she still took credit off for it, then I sent her an email and she
referenced the book and I copied back and said, it is not mentioned there at
all...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>    So, as always, sighted people
are given the options and we have to fight for them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>    Anyway, I did get it right and
was re-writing the project using it before the professor mentioned it in an
email she sent around 6:30 last night. I had already finished and tested it. The
radio buttons do show up, but hard to read the text because the image of the
radio interferes when using the mouse, but there all there. Tabbing of course
goes directly to text only so you can easily read the radio text.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>    The instructor wanted 2 columns
where each is a group with radio buttons in both lists...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>    The only hard part is figuring
out what is really being said and it is always a good idea to get more than one
source for your information because sooner or mostly likely later you will get
the answer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>    <BR>The fun part about going to
college.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>    Thanks Rod for thinking of
me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>       
Bruce</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 28, 2013 10:07
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator
2.0 Released! :)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV>Hi Bruce,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Many thanks for the encouragement, and for your programming support, as
well.  I’m feeling pretty good about what I’ve accomplished thus far, and
I’m just going to coast a bit, until I find something to study a bit more
about.  How’s the course you’re taking going?  Are you still in it,
or did it take more out of you than you could give?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Take care,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Rod <IMG
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=bronx_lab@fltg.net
href="mailto:bronx_lab@fltg.net">BX</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 28, 2013 4:51 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
href="mailto:gw-scripting@gwmicro.com">gw-scripting@gwmicro.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 Released!
:)</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi Rod,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>    Congratulations, I understand
what you are feeling because the Windoweyes VB platform makes it easy to write
useful code and I do mean useful code.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>    If you wanted to look into
some other ideas in using voice codes I had written 2 dialog boxes, one for
each of my games, Trek and Battleship. I also made my own Include or external
file to include script inside both dialogs to upload stuff for using the
Windows SAPI stuff that I made into a class that an object can be made
from.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>    I have an option in my Cuckoo
clock program to also make voice/sound files which you may also be interested
in.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>    You could download those
scripts and study them. At the bottom of each code in the .vbs file is a
procedure for extracting files and making a sub folder as well if you need to
do that in the future. Along with how to run an external .exe file; which is
the games written in Python.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>    Enjoy the new coding
environment for VB is easy to use, at least inside the GW Micro
environment.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>       
sincerely</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>       
Bruce</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 28, 2013 3:51
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RodMasterVolumePresetRotator
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Hi everyone! <IMG
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I would like to let everyone know about a landmark event for me – the
creation of my first app with an actual dialog box, namely,
RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0! <IMG
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The last dialog box I created was 22 years ago, using WordBasic, which
was part of Microsoft Word 2.0.  Back then, I had sight, and I designed
a dialog box an the code for printing odd and even pages of a document
because, at that time, this feature did not come with this version of
Word.  Anyway, the dialog box I designed worked great, but, alas, went
the way of the dodo bird, since upgrades made all my work pretty
irrelevant.  But, it had been fun, and gave me a boost of confidence.
<IMG
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Well, warp speed 22 years into the future, and with GW Micro’s UI
Design app, and with the wonderful help of Chip Orange and his amazing
classes and examples, I finally got the chance to design another dialog box,
learned how to write a dialog event handler, and put a neat little dialog
into one of my apps.  See the app in action yourself by downloading
RodMasterVolumePresetRotator 2.0 using AppGet, or use this URL:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><A
title=https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1388
href="https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1388">https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1388</A></DIV>;
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I have also updated my RodMasterVolumeControlSuite to version 2.0 to
include the update of RodMasterVolumePresetRotator, and the URL is:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><A
title=https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1389
href="https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1389">https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1389</A></DIV>;
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>My sincere thanks to GW Micro for their wonderful screen reader,
Window-Eyes, for their essential app designing tools like WE Script
Framework and UI Design, and a heartfelt bear-hug to Chip Orange, who has
been a mentor in my quest to use my PC to its utmost potential as a servant
of humankind! <IMG
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>My best to everyone in their personal quests, and have a restful
weekend! <IMG
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Cheers,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Rod Hutton <IMG
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