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"BX" <bronx_lab@fltg.net>

Subject:

Re: Suggestion needed, is a Treeview the right thing?

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Sat, Mar 30, 2013 4:24:25 pm

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Also Dave,

download my uninstall program, mainly designed for XP machines, and look at how I use the Tree View. The first level is the list of programs installed, the second level is the main keys or values of the program, and if there is an internet sight to go to you just hit the space bar once on that tree item. So you can see how to select and take action on it.

As I said, you can use the same ID and do power of 10 when in a sub level, but that is your choice; even power of 100 or what ever is needed.

Sincerely
Bruce

Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: Suggestion needed, is a Treeview the right thing?

Well fact is, that the project is going to have more like 50 entries on the main level, and up to five sub-level on some of the entries. That is why, I don't think a load of checkboxes would do. It would not even fit into a screen. The total list, including all sub-lists, holds more than 300 entries.

And, you are not just to decide Shirt, Pant or Socks. You will also choose the color, and if available the shade. So, you can choose only pants (with no color choice), and Shirt with the color green, and for socks, you can choose both black and Blue. Do you choose blue socks, there is the choices of Skyblue, Navy or Ocean blue. If you have the chance, please look at the short list I provided, and pay attention to the levelling of each entry, and you will see how they are connected with each other.

I could have made a multi-selection list, but then the user will have to scroll through a ton of colors, for each piece of cloth. All of this, was the reason, why I thought of a treeview, as it would give the user a quick way of scrolling down to the cloth he wanted, then expand that one, and check the colors he wanted.

But apparently I was not explaining this well enough. Thanks anyway for the ideas. They would have worked in a simpler project, but I have a feeling it would be hard to have to tab through several hundred checkboxes for putting together an outfit. :)

Regards,

----- Original Message -----
From: Rod Hutton
To: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: Suggestion needed, is a Treeview the right thing?

Hi David,

Here’s a lazy man’s point of view: why not just have 3 groups of checkboxes in one dialog; the first group (at the top of the dialog) would be “shirt”, the second (below the “shirt” group), would be “pants,” and the third group (below “pants”) would be “socks.” So, all you would need to do is tab around and check/uncheck to your heart’s content.

Cheers,

Rod

From: David
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 10:01 AM
To: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
Subject: Suggestion needed, is a Treeview the right thing?

I am about to start out on a new project. But I want to do things the better way, first go. .)

If I, in short terms, would describe the feature I am trying to figure how to, let me give this example.

Imagine we have three main levels. Let's for the ease of the example, say they are:
Shirt
Pant
Socks

. Now imagine, we have subcategories of each, giving different colors, and maybe even subcategories from there, giving the shades. So, the whole structure, would look like this:

Shirt
Green
White
Blue
pant
green
red
black
socks
green
light
dark
white
blue
sky
ocean
navy
Black
Yellow.

My first idea, would be to put all of this into a treeview. Thing is, that I wanted to have the chance of "checking" the different entries. That is, a person should be able to put a check mark, at the Green, under both Shirt and Pant. Maybe even check both Green and and white, for the shirt, and green for the pant.

I have never constructed a treeview, and I don't even know, if it is possible in a rather simple way - to accomplish what I here am attempting to do. Hence, my first question would be, is a treeview the right way to go? Secondly, is it even possible to do what I want? And thirdly, is there any tutorial, or scripting samples, that would address this kind of task. Preferably, something that does not contain thousand of lines, in a high-tech and fancy script.

Ok, I do understand, I would have to deal with dialogs, and treeviews or whatever, from an XML. Fine enough, but what would be suggested from some of you more experienced developers out there?

Thanks alot for any feedback,

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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Also Dave,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>    download my uninstall program,
mainly designed for XP machines, and look at how I use the Tree View. The first
level is the list of programs installed, the second level is the main keys or
values of the program, and if there is an internet sight to go to you just hit
the space bar once on that tree item. So you can see how to select and take
action on it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>    As I said, you can use the same
ID and do power of 10 when in a sub level, but that is your choice; even power
of 100 or what ever is needed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>       
Sincerely</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>       
Bruce</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 30, 2013 1:43
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Suggestion needed, is a
Treeview the right thing?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Well fact is, that the project is going to have
more like 50 entries on the main level, and up to five sub-level on some of
the entries. That is why, I don't think a load of checkboxes would do. It
would not even fit into a screen. The total list, including all sub-lists,
holds more than 300 entries.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>And, you are not just to decide Shirt, Pant or
Socks. You will also choose the color, and if available the shade. So, you can
choose only pants (with no color choice), and Shirt with the color green, and
for socks, you can choose both black and Blue. Do you choose blue socks, there
is the choices of Skyblue, Navy or Ocean blue. If you have the chance, please
look at the short list I provided, and pay attention to the levelling of each
entry, and you will see how they are connected with each other.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I could have made a multi-selection list, but
then the user will have to scroll through a ton of colors, for each piece of
cloth. All of this, was the reason, why I thought of a treeview, as it would
give the user a quick way of scrolling down to the cloth he wanted, then
expand that one, and check the colors he wanted. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>But apparently I was not explaining this well
enough. Thanks anyway for the ideas. They would have worked in a simpler
project, but I have a feeling it would be hard to have to tab through several
hundred checkboxes for putting together an outfit. :) </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<A title=rhstuff@sympatico.ca href="mailto:rhstuff@sympatico.ca">Rod
Hutton</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 30, 2013 6:20
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Suggestion needed, is a
Treeview the right thing?</DIV>
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<DIV>Hi David,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Here’s a lazy man’s point of view:  why not just have 3 groups of
checkboxes in one dialog; the first group (at the top of the dialog) would
be “shirt”, the second (below the “shirt” group), would be “pants,” and the
third group (below “pants”) would be “socks.”  So, all you would need
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<DIV>Cheers,</DIV>
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<DIV>Rod <IMG
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=trailerdavid@hotmail.com
href="mailto:trailerdavid@hotmail.com">David</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 30, 2013 10:01 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
href="mailto:gw-scripting@gwmicro.com">gw-scripting@gwmicro.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Suggestion needed, is a Treeview the right
thing?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I am about to start out on a new project. But I
want to do things the better way, first go. .)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>If I, in short terms, would describe the
feature I am trying to figure how to, let me give this example.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Imagine we have three main levels. Let's for
the ease of the example, say they are:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>    Shirt</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>    Pant</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>    Socks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>. Now imagine, we have subcategories of each,
giving different colors, and maybe even subcategories from there, giving the
shades. So, the whole structure, would look like this:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>    Shirt</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>       
Green</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>       
White</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>       
Blue</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>    pant</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>       
green</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>       
red</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>       
black</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>    socks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>       
green</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2
face=Arial>           
light</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2
face=Arial>           
dark</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>       
white</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>       
blue</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2
face=Arial>           
sky</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2
face=Arial>           
ocean</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2
face=Arial>           
navy</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>       
Black</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>       
Yellow.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>My first idea, would be to put all of this into
a treeview. Thing is, that I wanted to have the chance of "checking" the
different entries. That is, a person should be able to put a check mark, at
the Green, under both Shirt and Pant. Maybe even check both Green and and
white, for the shirt, and green for the pant.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I have never constructed a treeview, and I
don't even know, if it is possible in a rather simple way - to accomplish
what I here am attempting to do. Hence, my first question would be, is a
treeview the right way to go? Secondly, is it even possible to do what I
want? And thirdly, is there any tutorial, or scripting samples, that would
address this kind of task. Preferably, something that does not contain
thousand of lines, in a high-tech and fancy script. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Ok, I do understand, I would have to deal with
dialogs, and treeviews or whatever, from an XML. Fine enough, but what would
be suggested from some of you more experienced developers out
there?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Thanks alot for any feedback,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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