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From:
Tom Kingston <tom.kingston@charter.net>Subject:
Re: how to know what to reclass controls as when encounteredDate:
Sun, Nov 27, 2011 5:28:28 pmI'm not familiar with Power Shell other than it's the new kid on the
block. So perhaps someone else can help you with it.
Regards,
Tom
On 11/27/2011 3:47 PM, Katherine Moss wrote:
> Oh okay. What about Powershell calls?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Kingston [mailto:tom.kingston@charter.net]
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 1:08 PM
> To: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
> Subject: Re: how to know what to reclass controls as when encountered
>
> Because Window-Eyes supports the VBScript and JScript engines directly.
> So it cuts down on the overhead considerably and makes scripting much easier.
>
> Regards,
> Tom
>
>
> On 11/27/2011 11:30 AM, Katherine Moss wrote:
>> Oh dang. Nice! Now VBScript I do understand a little bit just as I do with C#. And that's another question that's been burning inside of me for a long time. How come we never see apps written in C#?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jared Wright [mailto:wright.jaredm@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 11:27 AM
>> To: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
>> Subject: Re: how to know what to reclass controls as when encountered
>>
>> Think of Immed as an interactive interpreter for WE apps written in VBScript or JScript.
>> On 11/26/2011 8:59 PM, Katherine Moss wrote:
>>> Is that a mode you can open? I don't use WE much right now because it's kind of pointless having to restart my computer every half an hour. I hope to purchase it within the week though.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Tom Kingston [mailto:tom.kingston@charter.net]
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 7:51 PM
>>> To: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
>>> Subject: Re: how to know what to reclass controls as when encountered
>>>
>>> Just to add to what Chip said, sometimes, if you're lucky, a simple look at the control in the immediate mode window will do the trick. I just opened a program wherein I knew I had some good examples. And here's all I did.
>>> 1. Focus the custom control.
>>> 2. Open the Immediate mode window.
>>> 3. Enter the following and note the result.
>>> Print FocusedWindow.ClassName
>>> sfppack2Bld1503TrackbarClass
>>> From that I know it's just a custom track bar and reclass it as a track bar.
>>> But this is the luck of the draw. Sometimes class names are informative or at least give you a potential clue or hint as to what to try.
>>>
>>> Otherwise it's a matter of trying to figure the control out by evaluating its functionality. And sometimes these custom controls look virtually no different than their standard counterparts. So borrowing a pair of knowledgeable eyes can sometimes reveal their secret.
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/26/2011 7:34 PM, Chip Orange wrote:
>>>> Hi Katherine,
>>>>
>>>> I'm afraid you can't reclass unless you have a pretty good idea as
>>>> to what it should be.
>>>>
>>>> If you're a scripter, you can use the various scripting tools to
>>>> take a look at the control's name or class (which often gives you a
>>>> hint as to what it's being used for), or the MSAA info log using the
>>>> WE Event app might tell you something.
>>>>
>>>> If you're not a scripter, then you are usually left to trial and
>>>> error (and a lot of the time, you have to set it back to "original"
>>>> because whatever you chose is worse than what it was doing).
>>>>
>>>> Sorry it's not easier than that, but if it is, I'm afraid I don't
>>>> know about it.
>>>>
>>>> Chip
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _____
>>>>
>>>> From: Katherine Moss [mailto:Katherine.Moss@gordon.edu]
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 7:19 PM
>>>> To: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
>>>> Subject: how to know what to reclass controls as when encountered
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I was fooling around a few weeks ago with the WCF
>>>> service configuration editor (a tool in the Windows SDK that I will
>>>> need in future development endeavors), and I realized that some of
>>>> the controls were custom according to WE, so I made an attempt at
>>>> reclassing them. I reclassed them as buttons not knowing what they
>>>> were actually supposed to be, and whatever I did, that seemed to
>>>> make them all disjunct and unreadable. WE could read them, but it
>>>> sounded like Gibberish rather than English. What is the first step when trying to reclass a control in figuring out what it should be?
>>>> Thanks guys.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Katherine Moss,
>>>>
>>>> Administrator of the AccessCop Network, previously Raeder24.org.
>>>> Visit us on the web at http://raeder24.org<http://raeder24.org/>;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
block. So perhaps someone else can help you with it.
Regards,
Tom
On 11/27/2011 3:47 PM, Katherine Moss wrote:
> Oh okay. What about Powershell calls?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Kingston [mailto:tom.kingston@charter.net]
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 1:08 PM
> To: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
> Subject: Re: how to know what to reclass controls as when encountered
>
> Because Window-Eyes supports the VBScript and JScript engines directly.
> So it cuts down on the overhead considerably and makes scripting much easier.
>
> Regards,
> Tom
>
>
> On 11/27/2011 11:30 AM, Katherine Moss wrote:
>> Oh dang. Nice! Now VBScript I do understand a little bit just as I do with C#. And that's another question that's been burning inside of me for a long time. How come we never see apps written in C#?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jared Wright [mailto:wright.jaredm@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 11:27 AM
>> To: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
>> Subject: Re: how to know what to reclass controls as when encountered
>>
>> Think of Immed as an interactive interpreter for WE apps written in VBScript or JScript.
>> On 11/26/2011 8:59 PM, Katherine Moss wrote:
>>> Is that a mode you can open? I don't use WE much right now because it's kind of pointless having to restart my computer every half an hour. I hope to purchase it within the week though.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Tom Kingston [mailto:tom.kingston@charter.net]
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 7:51 PM
>>> To: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
>>> Subject: Re: how to know what to reclass controls as when encountered
>>>
>>> Just to add to what Chip said, sometimes, if you're lucky, a simple look at the control in the immediate mode window will do the trick. I just opened a program wherein I knew I had some good examples. And here's all I did.
>>> 1. Focus the custom control.
>>> 2. Open the Immediate mode window.
>>> 3. Enter the following and note the result.
>>> Print FocusedWindow.ClassName
>>> sfppack2Bld1503TrackbarClass
>>> From that I know it's just a custom track bar and reclass it as a track bar.
>>> But this is the luck of the draw. Sometimes class names are informative or at least give you a potential clue or hint as to what to try.
>>>
>>> Otherwise it's a matter of trying to figure the control out by evaluating its functionality. And sometimes these custom controls look virtually no different than their standard counterparts. So borrowing a pair of knowledgeable eyes can sometimes reveal their secret.
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/26/2011 7:34 PM, Chip Orange wrote:
>>>> Hi Katherine,
>>>>
>>>> I'm afraid you can't reclass unless you have a pretty good idea as
>>>> to what it should be.
>>>>
>>>> If you're a scripter, you can use the various scripting tools to
>>>> take a look at the control's name or class (which often gives you a
>>>> hint as to what it's being used for), or the MSAA info log using the
>>>> WE Event app might tell you something.
>>>>
>>>> If you're not a scripter, then you are usually left to trial and
>>>> error (and a lot of the time, you have to set it back to "original"
>>>> because whatever you chose is worse than what it was doing).
>>>>
>>>> Sorry it's not easier than that, but if it is, I'm afraid I don't
>>>> know about it.
>>>>
>>>> Chip
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _____
>>>>
>>>> From: Katherine Moss [mailto:Katherine.Moss@gordon.edu]
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 7:19 PM
>>>> To: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
>>>> Subject: how to know what to reclass controls as when encountered
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I was fooling around a few weeks ago with the WCF
>>>> service configuration editor (a tool in the Windows SDK that I will
>>>> need in future development endeavors), and I realized that some of
>>>> the controls were custom according to WE, so I made an attempt at
>>>> reclassing them. I reclassed them as buttons not knowing what they
>>>> were actually supposed to be, and whatever I did, that seemed to
>>>> make them all disjunct and unreadable. WE could read them, but it
>>>> sounded like Gibberish rather than English. What is the first step when trying to reclass a control in figuring out what it should be?
>>>> Thanks guys.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Katherine Moss,
>>>>
>>>> Administrator of the AccessCop Network, previously Raeder24.org.
>>>> Visit us on the web at http://raeder24.org<http://raeder24.org/>;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
