From:

 Baracco, Andrew W

Subject:

 RE: Kurzweil 1000 and WindowEyes

Date:

 Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:52:09 am

Hi Les,

i had already installed Window-Eyes, so I followed the procedure
outlined by Stephen, and everything's cool. You will need to remove
Eloquence version 5, and any Eloquence language modules that you have
installed. After installing K1000, the next time you launch WE, go into
the synthesizer dialog, and you will see the Eloquence that was
installed with K1000. It works just fine with WE.

Andy


-----Original Message-----
From: Les Kriegler [mailto:kriegler@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 6:11 PM
To: Baracco, Andrew W; gw-info@gwmicro.com
Subject: RE: Kurzweil 1000 and WindowEyes

Hi Andy,

You've got timing! I just received K1000 version 11 last evening. Now,
I'm using the Dectalk Express for Window-Eyes and Eloquence for K1000.
In the add/remove programs, I only see reference to Eti Eloquence
version 5. So if uninstall version t as suggested, I'm wondering if
I'll lose Eloquence altogether?

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Baracco, Andrew W [mailto:Andrew.Baracco@va.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 3:14 PM
To: gw-info@gwmicro.com
Subject: FW: Kurzweil 1000 and WindowEyes

This is important info for anyone who uses both WE and the latest
version of K1000.
Andy


-----Original Message-----
From: k1000-owner@listserv.kurzweiledu.com
[mailto:k1000-owner@listserv.kurzweiledu.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Baum
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:45 AM
To: k1000@listserv.kurzweiledu.com
Subject: Kurzweil 1000 and WindowEyes

Hello everyone.

WindowEyes ships with version 5.0 of Eloquence. Kurzweil 1000, beginning
with version 11, ships with version 6.1 of Eloquence.
Unfortunately, since the company that makes Eloquence changed its name,
and hence its install folder, installation programs for one aren't aware
of the existance of the other. Even more unfortunately, the two versions
do not peacefully coexist on the same machine.

If someone installs Kurzweil 1000 version 11 on a system that has
WindowEyes, or, for that matter, if they install WindowEyes on a system
that contains Kurzweil 1000 version 11, both copies of Eloquence will be
on the system, and both will be unstable. If the WindowEyes copy was
installed first, Kurzweil 1000 would probably not see either copy of
Eloquence.
WindowEyes, if Eloquence is selected as the speech engine, would see
only its copy, but several error message boxes would be displayed if
attempts were made to access that engine.
Note, though, that WindowEyes does eventually succeed at using
Eloquence.

If someone is in that situation, they should switch to a different
speech synthesizer in WindowEyes, and then uninstall the WindowEyes
version of Eloquence using the Add/Remove programs applet from the
control panel. Note that there will multiple uninstalls - one for
Eloquence common modules, and another for each language that was
installed. WindowEyes has no problem using the newer version of
Eloquence - at least none that we've found.

If someone has WindowEyes and uses the Eloquence engine as their
synthesizer in WindowEyes, they have two choices to avoid this problem
before installing Kurzweil 1000.

One choice - probably the preferred one - is to do what we recommended
above
- switch to another synthesizer in WindowEyes temporarily, and then
uninstall Eloquence. Once that has been done, they can reboot and
install Kurzweil 1000. After the installation, they can switch to the
new version of Eloquence in WindowEyes if they wish.

A second choice is to keep using the old version of Eloquence, and do a
custom installation of Kurzweil 1000, making sure that you do NOT
install Eloquence.

Its worth noting, by the way, that if you keep Eloquence as your TTS
engine in WindowEyes and uninstall Eloquence, WindowEyes will come up
silently.
Until you switch synthesizers (either by knowing the keystrokes or using
sighted assistance), your screen reader won't be talking to you.

Stephen

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