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From:
Kevin Huber <huber.kevin7@gmail.com>Subject:
Re: new brows modeDate:
Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:52:38 amHi Larry:
I can see from reading your post and others that the new browse mode,
although it is a step forward, needs some work to fix the bugs, but,
after all, this is only a beta and we should expect some bugs. The
reason why we agreed to test this beta is to find and report such
bugs.
Speaking of which, I have another one to report.
When I am replying to an email in Gmail and I want to change the
address in the "To" field, Window-eyes reads the original address,
even though, when I read the contents of the field using the Left and
Right Arrow keys, I can confirm that the new address is there.
For example, if I reply to someone on this list and I want to replace
their email address with the gw-info email address, when I tab away
from that field and tab back to it, I still here Window-eyes read
his/her address before it reads the gw-info address. However, when I
read the field with the arrow keys, Window-eyes tells me the only the
gw-info address is there.
Kevin Huber
On 11/3/12, Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker.jr@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have not experienced this particular problem because I've never learned
> to
> use bookmarks effectively. When they were first introduced I played with
> them a bit but they didn't seem to work very well and I quit trying.
> However I think there's a problem in general with Window-Eyes beta getting
> out of sync with the link that is going to be activated if you press Enter.
> I suspect that my problems and these with the bookmarks are related to the
> same base issue. I didn't find which browser you're using, but I'm seeing
> a
> lot of weirdness in Firefox. On some pages if I use the insert-tab hotkey
> to open the link list and choose one, another one will activate instead of
> what I picked, or nothing at all happens and I'm back at the top of the
> page. I've also seen login pages where tabbing seems to be out of sync.
> In
> particular the Bank of America login won't work by simply entering the
> passcode and then tabbing to what should be the login link. Window-Eyes
> says it's the login link, but activating it puts you right back on the same
> page. I've found that I have to manually exit browse mode after typing the
> passcode and move to the login link with the arrow key. Then it will work
> as expected. I sent a separate message to support detailing this. I share
> it here to help others figure out what's going on and work around it until
> the next beta comes along.
>
> Please note: This email address is not closely monitored. If you wish to
> have a timely reply, plese write to toast master at lions realm dot net. or
> you may contact me through one of the sites listed below.
>
> Larry Thacker Jr.
> http://www.lionsrealm.net
> http://facebook.com/larry.thacker.jr
> http://twitter.com/lthackerjr
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Hudson [mailto:captinlogic@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 3:07 PM
> To: gw-info@gwmicro.com
> Subject: Re: new brows mode
>
> This is the case for me too as I wrote in an earlier message. Placemarkers
> don't quite work as expected. If you press K it will take you to the
> placemarker and, if it's a link and you press enter, that link will
> activate. But if you try to tab around the location of the placemarker, it
> doesn't work; instead you're still at the top of the page.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Huber" <huber.kevin7@gmail.com>
> To: "gw-info" <gw-info@gwmicro.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 2:35 PM
> Subject: Re: new brows mode
>
>
>> Hi Steve:
>> I think there is a problem with the bookmarks.
>> I have found this problem when reading a message in my Gmail account.
>> In order to reproduce this, do the following, if you have a Gmail
>> account:
>> 1. log into your Gmail account and go to your inbox.
>> 2. Open the link to one of your messages.
>> 3. Set a book at the "show original" link.
>> 4. Go back to the top of the page and press the letter k to find that
>> bookmark.
>> 5. Press Shift-Tab.
>> 6. Notice that you are not taken to the Delete link, which should be
>> the prior link in the tab sequence.
>> Kevin Huber
>>
>>
>> On 10/23/12, Stephen Clower <steve@gwmicro.com> wrote:
>>> Hello Jim,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the feedback thus far. Part of the public beta cycle's
>>> purpose is to give all of you a chance to submit your thoughts on new
>>> features, and we are paying close attention to what you all are saying.
>>> We intend to continue work on the new Browse Mode support based on your
>>> comments before the final Window-Eyes 8.0 ships.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/23/2012 3:25 AM, Jim Grimsby JR. wrote:
>>>> Hi, the new brows mode in the beta works wonderfully well wonderful job
>>>> gw micro. I like it I love it I want some more of it. One thing I was
>>>> really hoping for with the new brows mode was land mark support. This
>>>> is important because a number of sites use this to provide a quick
>>>> means
>>>> of moving to points of interest on the page. Is there any way we
>>>> could
>>>> get landmark support?
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Stephen Clower
>>> Product support specialist & App Development
>>> GW Micro, Inc. * 725 Airport North Office Park, Fort Wayne, IN 46825
>>> 260-489-3671 * gwmicro.com
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>>>
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>>>
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>>
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>>
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I can see from reading your post and others that the new browse mode,
although it is a step forward, needs some work to fix the bugs, but,
after all, this is only a beta and we should expect some bugs. The
reason why we agreed to test this beta is to find and report such
bugs.
Speaking of which, I have another one to report.
When I am replying to an email in Gmail and I want to change the
address in the "To" field, Window-eyes reads the original address,
even though, when I read the contents of the field using the Left and
Right Arrow keys, I can confirm that the new address is there.
For example, if I reply to someone on this list and I want to replace
their email address with the gw-info email address, when I tab away
from that field and tab back to it, I still here Window-eyes read
his/her address before it reads the gw-info address. However, when I
read the field with the arrow keys, Window-eyes tells me the only the
gw-info address is there.
Kevin Huber
On 11/3/12, Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker.jr@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have not experienced this particular problem because I've never learned
> to
> use bookmarks effectively. When they were first introduced I played with
> them a bit but they didn't seem to work very well and I quit trying.
> However I think there's a problem in general with Window-Eyes beta getting
> out of sync with the link that is going to be activated if you press Enter.
> I suspect that my problems and these with the bookmarks are related to the
> same base issue. I didn't find which browser you're using, but I'm seeing
> a
> lot of weirdness in Firefox. On some pages if I use the insert-tab hotkey
> to open the link list and choose one, another one will activate instead of
> what I picked, or nothing at all happens and I'm back at the top of the
> page. I've also seen login pages where tabbing seems to be out of sync.
> In
> particular the Bank of America login won't work by simply entering the
> passcode and then tabbing to what should be the login link. Window-Eyes
> says it's the login link, but activating it puts you right back on the same
> page. I've found that I have to manually exit browse mode after typing the
> passcode and move to the login link with the arrow key. Then it will work
> as expected. I sent a separate message to support detailing this. I share
> it here to help others figure out what's going on and work around it until
> the next beta comes along.
>
> Please note: This email address is not closely monitored. If you wish to
> have a timely reply, plese write to toast master at lions realm dot net. or
> you may contact me through one of the sites listed below.
>
> Larry Thacker Jr.
> http://www.lionsrealm.net
> http://facebook.com/larry.thacker.jr
> http://twitter.com/lthackerjr
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Hudson [mailto:captinlogic@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 3:07 PM
> To: gw-info@gwmicro.com
> Subject: Re: new brows mode
>
> This is the case for me too as I wrote in an earlier message. Placemarkers
> don't quite work as expected. If you press K it will take you to the
> placemarker and, if it's a link and you press enter, that link will
> activate. But if you try to tab around the location of the placemarker, it
> doesn't work; instead you're still at the top of the page.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Huber" <huber.kevin7@gmail.com>
> To: "gw-info" <gw-info@gwmicro.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 2:35 PM
> Subject: Re: new brows mode
>
>
>> Hi Steve:
>> I think there is a problem with the bookmarks.
>> I have found this problem when reading a message in my Gmail account.
>> In order to reproduce this, do the following, if you have a Gmail
>> account:
>> 1. log into your Gmail account and go to your inbox.
>> 2. Open the link to one of your messages.
>> 3. Set a book at the "show original" link.
>> 4. Go back to the top of the page and press the letter k to find that
>> bookmark.
>> 5. Press Shift-Tab.
>> 6. Notice that you are not taken to the Delete link, which should be
>> the prior link in the tab sequence.
>> Kevin Huber
>>
>>
>> On 10/23/12, Stephen Clower <steve@gwmicro.com> wrote:
>>> Hello Jim,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the feedback thus far. Part of the public beta cycle's
>>> purpose is to give all of you a chance to submit your thoughts on new
>>> features, and we are paying close attention to what you all are saying.
>>> We intend to continue work on the new Browse Mode support based on your
>>> comments before the final Window-Eyes 8.0 ships.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/23/2012 3:25 AM, Jim Grimsby JR. wrote:
>>>> Hi, the new brows mode in the beta works wonderfully well wonderful job
>>>> gw micro. I like it I love it I want some more of it. One thing I was
>>>> really hoping for with the new brows mode was land mark support. This
>>>> is important because a number of sites use this to provide a quick
>>>> means
>>>> of moving to points of interest on the page. Is there any way we
>>>> could
>>>> get landmark support?
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Stephen Clower
>>> Product support specialist & App Development
>>> GW Micro, Inc. * 725 Airport North Office Park, Fort Wayne, IN 46825
>>> 260-489-3671 * gwmicro.com
>>> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender
>>> only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is
>>> related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to
>>> gw-info@gwmicro.com so the entire list will receive it.
>>>
>>> GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can
>>> manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv.
>>>
>>>
>> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender
>> only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is
>> related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to
>> gw-info@gwmicro.com so the entire list will receive it.
>>
>> GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can
>> manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv.
>>
> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender
> only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is
> related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to
> gw-info@gwmicro.com so the entire list will receive it.
>
> GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can
> manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv.
>
> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender
> only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is
> related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to
> gw-info@gwmicro.com so the entire list will receive it.
>
> GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can
> manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv.
>
>
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