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Yusuf <yusufaosman@btinternet.com>Subject:
Re: WebAIM Survey on Screen ReadersDate:
Fri, May 4, 2012 4:22:37 amI'm sorry to bang on about this Jared, but now you've misunderstood what
the issue is. You say below that if Window Eyes users go in to Browse
mode they'll get the descriptions that go with the radio buttons or
check boxes. But that is precisely what I'm not getting.
I'm using IE9, the latest version of WE and am in Browse Mode. But I
don't get these descriptions unless I turn on the field set option in
the Verbosity, Browse option in Window Eyes Control Panel.
If I use Fire Fox, there's no issue at all.
I've been trying to wrack my brains to locate a form where Window Eyes
does in-fact read the descriptions/questions in Browse Mode and the only
one I've come up with is a short one on the RNIB web site
www.rnib.org.uk
Here the question is identified in Browse Mode before the radio buttons
and without having to make any changes to the verbosity settings. I
guess the question is why.
Yusuf
On 03/05/2012 23:32, Jared Smith wrote:
> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Vaughan Dodd wrote:
>
>> I guess I am left wondering - not having done the survey and not intending to - is this organisation (WebAIM.org), funded by a particular screen reader developer?
>
> No. We are a web accessibility advocacy and consulting group. Our
> mission is to make the online lives of people with disabilities
> better. We invite you to check out our resources and tools at
> webaim.org. We collect screen reader survey data to better inform the
> web accessibility development community on user preferences,
> technologies, etc. We invite you to complete the survey. Your
> responses are very valuable to us and the development community.
>
>> Certainly: if there is a glaring weakness with Window-eyes, GW need to fix it, but they don't need a potentially vested interest in another company to use its list to trash them.
>
> I don't think I have been "trashing" Window-Eyes. As I have done
> several times in the past, I'm simply trying to document the issue and
> inform users that if they encounter issues with standards-compliant
> checkbox and radio button groups, that the issue is likely with
> Window-Eyes and that they will need to enter Browse mode to find the
> relevant descriptions.
>
> It seems updates to Browse mode may be coming in the future, so
> hopefully it will be addressed with these updates.
>
> Jared
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the issue is. You say below that if Window Eyes users go in to Browse
mode they'll get the descriptions that go with the radio buttons or
check boxes. But that is precisely what I'm not getting.
I'm using IE9, the latest version of WE and am in Browse Mode. But I
don't get these descriptions unless I turn on the field set option in
the Verbosity, Browse option in Window Eyes Control Panel.
If I use Fire Fox, there's no issue at all.
I've been trying to wrack my brains to locate a form where Window Eyes
does in-fact read the descriptions/questions in Browse Mode and the only
one I've come up with is a short one on the RNIB web site
www.rnib.org.uk
Here the question is identified in Browse Mode before the radio buttons
and without having to make any changes to the verbosity settings. I
guess the question is why.
Yusuf
On 03/05/2012 23:32, Jared Smith wrote:
> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Vaughan Dodd wrote:
>
>> I guess I am left wondering - not having done the survey and not intending to - is this organisation (WebAIM.org), funded by a particular screen reader developer?
>
> No. We are a web accessibility advocacy and consulting group. Our
> mission is to make the online lives of people with disabilities
> better. We invite you to check out our resources and tools at
> webaim.org. We collect screen reader survey data to better inform the
> web accessibility development community on user preferences,
> technologies, etc. We invite you to complete the survey. Your
> responses are very valuable to us and the development community.
>
>> Certainly: if there is a glaring weakness with Window-eyes, GW need to fix it, but they don't need a potentially vested interest in another company to use its list to trash them.
>
> I don't think I have been "trashing" Window-Eyes. As I have done
> several times in the past, I'm simply trying to document the issue and
> inform users that if they encounter issues with standards-compliant
> checkbox and radio button groups, that the issue is likely with
> Window-Eyes and that they will need to enter Browse mode to find the
> relevant descriptions.
>
> It seems updates to Browse mode may be coming in the future, so
> hopefully it will be addressed with these updates.
>
> Jared
> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to gw-info@gwmicro.com so the entire list will receive it.
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