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From:
AndreSubject:
Script to expose msaa?Date:
Sat, Jul 17, 2010 11:00:59 amcharset="US-ASCII"
I'm trying to use expression web 4. Window Eyes 7.2 wouldn't read much of
anything with regard to the setup and installation screens. Actually neither
would NVDA, but NVDA would read the "accept" "next" "I agree" buttons. After
just going ahead and installing it. NVDA does read the pull down menus:
File, edit, view, etc, but Window Eyes does not. When I hit alt, We
announces "context opening" or something like that. It doesn't even read
file, edit, view, etc. Then as I arrow up and/or down, it reads Open if on
the file menu. But it acts like it's stuck on that first menu item; however
as I continue to arrow down, I know I am crossing other menu items because
NVDA does read them, but WE only says the first item when I hit the speak
summary hotkey. As I arrow down, WE is silent, but if I hit the speak
summary hotkey, WE only constantly reads the first item I crossed by me
using the speak summary hotkey to check to see which item I am on. If I hit
alt and am on the file menu, if I arrow up, WE will tell me I'm on the exit
menu item, but again, it remains stuck on that item no matter if I arrow up
or down.
If I'm so blessed to be able to hit alt and then right arrow with lightening
fast speed twice over to view, WE will always say I'm on the view menu. In
that case, it won't even report the first item under the view menu after I
hit the down arrow key.
It may read the first thing under the edit menu as I arrow to the right. But
again it only recognizes that one item arrowing down. I don't even have time
to arrow through the menus. Window Eyes doesn't seem to give me time to
arrow over to the view, format, and insert menus, but NVDA does, and NVDA
recognizes all of them. NVDA says "collapseable" on some of the menu items.
I just wanted to give the scripters and expert WE users as much info as I
could.
Expression Web 4 uses the .net 4 extended framework.
I know it must not use standard menus, so is there a script out there that
makes these menus accessible? I used the msaa detective script and found out
that they do popup though. That's an interesting script. What can I do? I
don't know NVDA well enough, and I would really rather use WE anyway. If
much of MS Office is accessible, why wouldn't this program be.?
As a nonscripter yet, how would I break down the steps necessary to create a
script like whether or not a program is going through msaa or is
communicating by some other means? I know these are a lot of questions, so I
really appreciate the feedback and the time taken to answer these questions.
Much thanks as always,
Andre
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I'm trying to use expression web 4. Window Eyes 7.2 wouldn't read much of
anything with regard to the setup and installation screens. Actually neither
would NVDA, but NVDA would read the "accept" "next" "I agree" buttons. After
just going ahead and installing it. NVDA does read the pull down menus:
File, edit, view, etc, but Window Eyes does not. When I hit alt, We
announces "context opening" or something like that. It doesn't even read
file, edit, view, etc. Then as I arrow up and/or down, it reads Open if on
the file menu. But it acts like it's stuck on that first menu item; however
as I continue to arrow down, I know I am crossing other menu items because
NVDA does read them, but WE only says the first item when I hit the speak
summary hotkey. As I arrow down, WE is silent, but if I hit the speak
summary hotkey, WE only constantly reads the first item I crossed by me
using the speak summary hotkey to check to see which item I am on. If I hit
alt and am on the file menu, if I arrow up, WE will tell me I'm on the exit
menu item, but again, it remains stuck on that item no matter if I arrow up
or down.
If I'm so blessed to be able to hit alt and then right arrow with lightening
fast speed twice over to view, WE will always say I'm on the view menu. In
that case, it won't even report the first item under the view menu after I
hit the down arrow key.
It may read the first thing under the edit menu as I arrow to the right. But
again it only recognizes that one item arrowing down. I don't even have time
to arrow through the menus. Window Eyes doesn't seem to give me time to
arrow over to the view, format, and insert menus, but NVDA does, and NVDA
recognizes all of them. NVDA says "collapseable" on some of the menu items.
I just wanted to give the scripters and expert WE users as much info as I
could.
Expression Web 4 uses the .net 4 extended framework.
I know it must not use standard menus, so is there a script out there that
makes these menus accessible? I used the msaa detective script and found out
that they do popup though. That's an interesting script. What can I do? I
don't know NVDA well enough, and I would really rather use WE anyway. If
much of MS Office is accessible, why wouldn't this program be.?
As a nonscripter yet, how would I break down the steps necessary to create a
script like whether or not a program is going through msaa or is
communicating by some other means? I know these are a lot of questions, so I
really appreciate the feedback and the time taken to answer these questions.
Much thanks as always,
Andre
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