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From:
Jo TaliaferroSubject:
RE: custom control?Date:
Fri, Aug 7, 2009 12:58:23 amHi, You could try checking your verbosity menu and see if there's a place
to uncheck the item that refers to Custom control. Also, you can do a
search in the WE manual, under the index section and see if there's helpful
information there. Or, when you hear "Custom Control" press control plus
shift plus question mark to get help.
Jo Taliaferro
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan R. Downing [mailto:kd7gc@q.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 9:32 PM
To: Loy; GW-info
Subject: Re: custom control?
Don't know, but WE doesn't say "custom control" on my machines when IE
loads.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Loy"
To: "GW-info"
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: custom control?
We always says "custom Control" when IE loads, what is this referring to?
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan R. Downing
To: erik burggraaf ; Kenlawrence124@aol.com
Cc: gw-info@gwmicro.com
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: custom control?
The only time that I have ever heard WE announce a splash screen is when my
Magic Jack launches. Not sure why this is, but there you are.
----- Original Message -----
From: erik burggraaf
To: Kenlawrence124@aol.com
Cc: gw-info@gwmicro.com
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: custom control?
Hi Ken,
To understand what a custome control is, first you need to understand that
controls are things you can interact with on the screen. An edit box for
example is where you type something. A rich edit is an edit box that does
smart things for you, like making http addresses so that you can click them
and go to a web site. Treeview and list controls show lists of information
like the files and folders on your computer. Check box and radio button
controls let you choose yes, no, or one or the other thing. If that wasn't
obscure enough, now we get to custom controls.
When a program is designed, the programmer can use the standard edit box,
check box, button, listview controls that come built in to the language
system being used to design the program. Or, the person can make their own
thing that looks and acts like one of the standard controls... only it
isn't. This is a custom control. Window-eyes calls everything it doesn't
recognize a custom control.
The reason you might hear custom control when a program starts is that
many programs have what is called a splash screen, and splash screens are
often built from scratch by the program designer. The purpose of a splash
screen is to keep you ocupied for the 2 seconds it takes for the program you
just opened to load and be ready for use. Often the splash screen has
copyright information and a logo. Some have anamations and other things
that are entertaining to the visual user who needs something to draw their
eye while they wait for the program to open. As I said, window-eyes will
more often than not fail to recognize the splash screen for what it is and
read it, because of the design. Therefore, it will tell you a custom
control has focus when you open a program. Then of course it will go off
and read the program itself very nicely most of the time.
Best,
erik burggraaf
A+ sertified technician and user support consultant.
Phone: 888-255-5194
Email: erik@erik-burggraaf.com
On 6-Aug-09, at 6:10 PM, Kenlawrence124@aol.com wrote:
Hi list members, Ken here. As window-eyes is running and when I sign on
to AOL for example, the Dectalk voice says, "custom control." What is it
telling me? I know what it's saying when the mouse pointer changes shape
from an hourglass to an arrow, but don't know what custom control is trying
to tell me. Also understand "Ap Starting." Thanks, Ken.
I pledge to participate actively in the efforts of the national
federation of the blind to achieve equality, opportunity, and security for
the blind; to support the policies and programs of the federation; and abide
by it's constitution.
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to uncheck the item that refers to Custom control. Also, you can do a
search in the WE manual, under the index section and see if there's helpful
information there. Or, when you hear "Custom Control" press control plus
shift plus question mark to get help.
Jo Taliaferro
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan R. Downing [mailto:kd7gc@q.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 9:32 PM
To: Loy; GW-info
Subject: Re: custom control?
Don't know, but WE doesn't say "custom control" on my machines when IE
loads.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Loy"
To: "GW-info"
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: custom control?
We always says "custom Control" when IE loads, what is this referring to?
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan R. Downing
To: erik burggraaf ; Kenlawrence124@aol.com
Cc: gw-info@gwmicro.com
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: custom control?
The only time that I have ever heard WE announce a splash screen is when my
Magic Jack launches. Not sure why this is, but there you are.
----- Original Message -----
From: erik burggraaf
To: Kenlawrence124@aol.com
Cc: gw-info@gwmicro.com
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: custom control?
Hi Ken,
To understand what a custome control is, first you need to understand that
controls are things you can interact with on the screen. An edit box for
example is where you type something. A rich edit is an edit box that does
smart things for you, like making http addresses so that you can click them
and go to a web site. Treeview and list controls show lists of information
like the files and folders on your computer. Check box and radio button
controls let you choose yes, no, or one or the other thing. If that wasn't
obscure enough, now we get to custom controls.
When a program is designed, the programmer can use the standard edit box,
check box, button, listview controls that come built in to the language
system being used to design the program. Or, the person can make their own
thing that looks and acts like one of the standard controls... only it
isn't. This is a custom control. Window-eyes calls everything it doesn't
recognize a custom control.
The reason you might hear custom control when a program starts is that
many programs have what is called a splash screen, and splash screens are
often built from scratch by the program designer. The purpose of a splash
screen is to keep you ocupied for the 2 seconds it takes for the program you
just opened to load and be ready for use. Often the splash screen has
copyright information and a logo. Some have anamations and other things
that are entertaining to the visual user who needs something to draw their
eye while they wait for the program to open. As I said, window-eyes will
more often than not fail to recognize the splash screen for what it is and
read it, because of the design. Therefore, it will tell you a custom
control has focus when you open a program. Then of course it will go off
and read the program itself very nicely most of the time.
Best,
erik burggraaf
A+ sertified technician and user support consultant.
Phone: 888-255-5194
Email: erik@erik-burggraaf.com
On 6-Aug-09, at 6:10 PM, Kenlawrence124@aol.com wrote:
Hi list members, Ken here. As window-eyes is running and when I sign on
to AOL for example, the Dectalk voice says, "custom control." What is it
telling me? I know what it's saying when the mouse pointer changes shape
from an hourglass to an arrow, but don't know what custom control is trying
to tell me. Also understand "Ap Starting." Thanks, Ken.
I pledge to participate actively in the efforts of the national
federation of the blind to achieve equality, opportunity, and security for
the blind; to support the policies and programs of the federation; and abide
by it's constitution.
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