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I have to agree with this, a lot of useless steps just to keep the scrip's up to date. also would like to see a install all updates option in the install packages scrip.
----- Original Message -----
From: David
To: Charles Adkins
Cc: WE English mailing list
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:14 AM
Subject: Re: WE 7.01 crashing when script update Alert opens
Just want to confirm, that I have had the same experience, several times. I
have a vague feeling, that it specially happens when updates are available
for the GW toolkit script; but then again, that one is the one most
frequently updated, ain't it?
There is one work around, which can be done in certain cases. That is to
unplug the internet cable of your computer, while re-booting. Then, as soon
as everything is up and running, including WE, plug in the Internet cable
again. After this, run the CTRL-WIN-I sequence, and handle the updates
'manually'.
What I really would have loved to see, is a SILENT update function, in WE.
Even WHEN the script updating does function, with no loss and breaks, I
don't see why the user have first to accept the updating of the script
(which he has already done, by turning the automatic update on, first hand),
then see a long list of files the script will install (which are installed
from beforehand, since he is already using the script), Then press install
(useless, since he - by turning on the automatic update - has already told
the upcoming updates to install), and - in many cases, i.e. with updates
from GW - ACCEPT the copyright screen (which also has been accepted through
all the prior updates, and even had to be accepted when the first
installation of the script was done). USELESS to go through all these steps.
Most other software would update more or less SILENTLY, seamlessly, if ever
giving info to the user, it would be a quick message balloon, telling that
the update has been done, and now is ready. The only other compay, who
sometimes have to go the LONG WAY AROUND, when updating, is MicroSoft. And
they only do it ONCE in a while, not every single time.
GW staff, before considering WE7.1 on the market, why don't you hold it a
week or two longer, and then fix a script update function, where things
would work without all of this hazzle. If not, I agree with the last user on
this thread, simply turn off the automatic update for all scripts. But then,
why ever have such a feature, when it only is to be left turned off?
First talikng of scripts: I wish the CD with WE, would ship with the SCRIPT
Installer script. That way, soon as the WE has installed, you could simply
press CTRL-WIN-I, and go through the list of availble scripts. The way it is
now, you first have to go to the Script Central, to download it, and then
install it manually, before you can get the next scripts installed more
smoothly. So, again GW staff, could you have included this script on the
installation cd?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Adkins"
To: "GW Micro"
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:15 AM
Subject: Re: WE 7.01 crashing when script update Alert opens
>I have had the same problem. For me since I have Windows sounds killed, I
>go as far as the desktop I think, then script updates begin and then the
>crash and I can do nothing. I have to re-boot, and then try to stop the
>progress before the script updates load. On this update today May 6, I
>can't tell you which update caused the crash--we update I think--because
>when the update loaded speech was killed, and when I stopped progress on
>next re-boot and did a "control Windows I" approximately 5 updated scripts
>were ready for my downloading.
>
> When time permits, I'm thinking about turning off all automatic updates
> until WE 7.1 if I can remember how to do that, no time now though. This
> stuff always happens when I'm slammed with lots of work, and by the time I
> have time I just keep putting off trying to play Sherlock Holmes and
> fixing everything. If I just didn't have to work every day!!!!!
>
> SMILE
>
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry"
> To: "GW Micro"
> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 6:27 PM
> Subject: WE 7.01 crashing when script update Alert opens
>
>
>> Hello there. When it comes to my situation, I'll give all the details
>> that
>> I can, but since the problem occurs as Window-Eyes launches, I am a bit
>> limited as to the feedback that I am receiving.
>>
>> What happens is this.
>> 1. When the computer has launched Windows I start Window-eyes.
>> 2. The first thing I hear at this point is the sounder that indicates
>> that a
>> script needs updating.
>> 3. The next thing I hear is the sounder which indicates that something
>> somewhere has failed. I can't say what, because Window-eyes does not say
>> a
>> word through this process.
>> 4. I restart or reset the computer, repeat steps 1 and 2, and the above
>> described scenario occurs once again.
>>
>> With no speech to indicate what is going on, I can't go into greater
>> detail.
>> All I know is that some problem pops up when I am notified that whatever
>> the
>> script in question happens to be wants to update.
>>
>> Meanwhile, other screen readers are running problem free, but won't
>> launch
>> after Window-eyes crashes. Any suggestions on what I might try here?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
>>
>> Larry
>>
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I have to agree with this, a lot of useless steps just to keep the scrip's up to date. also would like to see a install all updates option in the install packages scrip.
----- Original Message -----
From: David
To: Charles Adkins
Cc: WE English mailing list
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:14 AM
Subject: Re: WE 7.01 crashing when script update Alert opens
Just want to confirm, that I have had the same experience, several times. I
have a vague feeling, that it specially happens when updates are available
for the GW toolkit script; but then again, that one is the one most
frequently updated, ain't it?
There is one work around, which can be done in certain cases. That is to
unplug the internet cable of your computer, while re-booting. Then, as soon
as everything is up and running, including WE, plug in the Internet cable
again. After this, run the CTRL-WIN-I sequence, and handle the updates
'manually'.
What I really would have loved to see, is a SILENT update function, in WE.
Even WHEN the script updating does function, with no loss and breaks, I
don't see why the user have first to accept the updating of the script
(which he has already done, by turning the automatic update on, first hand),
then see a long list of files the script will install (which are installed
from beforehand, since he is already using the script), Then press install
(useless, since he - by turning on the automatic update - has already told
the upcoming updates to install), and - in many cases, i.e. with updates
from GW - ACCEPT the copyright screen (which also has been accepted through
all the prior updates, and even had to be accepted when the first
installation of the script was done). USELESS to go through all these steps.
Most other software would update more or less SILENTLY, seamlessly, if ever
giving info to the user, it would be a quick message balloon, telling that
the update has been done, and now is ready. The only other compay, who
sometimes have to go the LONG WAY AROUND, when updating, is MicroSoft. And
they only do it ONCE in a while, not every single time.
GW staff, before considering WE7.1 on the market, why don't you hold it a
week or two longer, and then fix a script update function, where things
would work without all of this hazzle. If not, I agree with the last user on
this thread, simply turn off the automatic update for all scripts. But then,
why ever have such a feature, when it only is to be left turned off?
First talikng of scripts: I wish the CD with WE, would ship with the SCRIPT
Installer script. That way, soon as the WE has installed, you could simply
press CTRL-WIN-I, and go through the list of availble scripts. The way it is
now, you first have to go to the Script Central, to download it, and then
install it manually, before you can get the next scripts installed more
smoothly. So, again GW staff, could you have included this script on the
installation cd?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Adkins"
To: "GW Micro"
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:15 AM
Subject: Re: WE 7.01 crashing when script update Alert opens
>I have had the same problem. For me since I have Windows sounds killed, I
>go as far as the desktop I think, then script updates begin and then the
>crash and I can do nothing. I have to re-boot, and then try to stop the
>progress before the script updates load. On this update today May 6, I
>can't tell you which update caused the crash--we update I think--because
>when the update loaded speech was killed, and when I stopped progress on
>next re-boot and did a "control Windows I" approximately 5 updated scripts
>were ready for my downloading.
>
> When time permits, I'm thinking about turning off all automatic updates
> until WE 7.1 if I can remember how to do that, no time now though. This
> stuff always happens when I'm slammed with lots of work, and by the time I
> have time I just keep putting off trying to play Sherlock Holmes and
> fixing everything. If I just didn't have to work every day!!!!!
>
> SMILE
>
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry"
> To: "GW Micro"
> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 6:27 PM
> Subject: WE 7.01 crashing when script update Alert opens
>
>
>> Hello there. When it comes to my situation, I'll give all the details
>> that
>> I can, but since the problem occurs as Window-Eyes launches, I am a bit
>> limited as to the feedback that I am receiving.
>>
>> What happens is this.
>> 1. When the computer has launched Windows I start Window-eyes.
>> 2. The first thing I hear at this point is the sounder that indicates
>> that a
>> script needs updating.
>> 3. The next thing I hear is the sounder which indicates that something
>> somewhere has failed. I can't say what, because Window-eyes does not say
>> a
>> word through this process.
>> 4. I restart or reset the computer, repeat steps 1 and 2, and the above
>> described scenario occurs once again.
>>
>> With no speech to indicate what is going on, I can't go into greater
>> detail.
>> All I know is that some problem pops up when I am notified that whatever
>> the
>> script in question happens to be wants to update.
>>
>> Meanwhile, other screen readers are running problem free, but won't
>> launch
>> after Window-eyes crashes. Any suggestions on what I might try here?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original
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>>
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>>
>
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