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steve@comproom.co.ukSubject:
RE: Window-Eyes Outlook CalendarDate:
Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:30:42 amHi Chip,
This makes interesting thinking about. While the WE interface is much
better, there are clearly some things missing in it that would be nice to
have. Go to Date I already mentioned in a previous message, but if you want
to find an appointment based on a text string, then you have to use the
horrid Tools, Advanced Find dialogue in Outlook. This would be another nice
to have in the WE interface, a method to find an appointment by a string of
text.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Orange [mailto:Corange@PSC.STATE.FL.US]
Sent: Tuesday 13 January 2009 21:28
To: gw-info@gwmicro.com
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar
You're absolutely right Doug; however, it's just having to learn a
different interface.
In the list interface of outlook, it's just more arrowing up/down in
your list of appointments. When you're searching for when exactly that
meeting was scheduled, this sometimes can be faster and easier. In any
case, it just takes some getting used to in selecting your time frame,
and using next/previous, if you're used to arrowing up and down a master
list, so I see her confusion, and your point that a more complex
interface can do more powerful things.
Chip
------------------------------
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Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission
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This makes interesting thinking about. While the WE interface is much
better, there are clearly some things missing in it that would be nice to
have. Go to Date I already mentioned in a previous message, but if you want
to find an appointment based on a text string, then you have to use the
horrid Tools, Advanced Find dialogue in Outlook. This would be another nice
to have in the WE interface, a method to find an appointment by a string of
text.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Orange [mailto:Corange@PSC.STATE.FL.US]
Sent: Tuesday 13 January 2009 21:28
To: gw-info@gwmicro.com
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar
You're absolutely right Doug; however, it's just having to learn a
different interface.
In the list interface of outlook, it's just more arrowing up/down in
your list of appointments. When you're searching for when exactly that
meeting was scheduled, this sometimes can be faster and easier. In any
case, it just takes some getting used to in selecting your time frame,
and using next/previous, if you're used to arrowing up and down a master
list, so I see her confusion, and your point that a more complex
interface can do more powerful things.
Chip
------------------------------
Chip Orange
Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission
Chip.Orange@psc.state.fl.us
(850) 413-6314
(Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Geoffray [mailto:geoffray@gwmicro.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 4:16 PM
To: Sandra Fouts
Cc: gw-info@gwmicro.com
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar
Sandra,
Maybe I'm missing something but don't you see the Previous and Next
buttons. If you have the Day radio button selected then clicking
previous will go back one day. Click it again and you go back two
days. If you have week selected then previous goes to the previous
week, a second click goes back two weeks and on and on. Or you can
select the Custom radio button, give it the start and end
date and get
any range you can possibly think of. All this is explained
in section
23.1 of the Window-Eyes manual but you can easily move forward or
backward by whatever timespan you are currently looking at.
Regards,
Doug
Sandra Fouts wrote:
> Okay. Insert-C will tell me what I want to know for
today, but how do I go back a day or more?
>
>
> Sandra Fouts
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Geoffray [mailto:geoffray@gwmicro.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 2:55 PM
> To: Chip Orange
> Cc: gw-info@gwmicro.com
> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar
>
> Chip,
>
> I suggest you give the Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar feature
(insert-c) a try. It is nothing like the native Outlook
"active appointments" view. The native user interface (even
when tried to make accessible as JAWS tried) just doesn't cut
it from the keyboard. Outlook's native interface was
designed for sighted users who can look at the entire view
and use the mouse to click quickly to what they want with
limited clumsy keyboard support added. This is why we didn't
waste time in trying to make the native user interface
accessible (which we easily could have done). Instead we
designed a very powerful and blind friendly accessible dialog
making it much more efficient for a blind user and even
adding additional functionality that Outlook doesn't provide
along the way.
>
> When you press insert-c, it will populate the listvew of
appointments based on the radio button by Day, work week,
week, month, year or custom. Note, this is already more
powerful then the native Outlook user interface as you don't
have this many options to view. The listview is much more
efficient to navigate as well. The appointments which are
used are based on the calendars you have selected in Outlook.
So if you want three of your personal calendars and twenty
other co-workers, you would simply select the calendars you
want using the native Outlook interface as this part is very
accessible. This is the same interface a sighted user would
have to use to display the same calendars. Depending on the
version of Outlook the procedure is slightly different. Then
when you press insert-C, Window-Eyes looks to see what
calendars you have selected and shows all the appointments
from these calendars. You can easily determine which
appointment came from which calendar from our dialog if you
need to know this.
>
> I've only scratched the surface with our dialog but I hope
this helps you to better understand the real power and
potential from our dialog versus the keyboard clumsy Outlook
interface. Our manual describes everything in much more
detail if you are interested in more.
>
> Regards,
> Doug
>
> Chip Orange wrote:
>
> Sorry again John, my bad here.
>
> I had switched back to jaws (I have to because of
problems where window
> eyes doesn't read office "intellisense" so I can't
do my job using it),
> and so I didn't get the correct results from insert C.
>
> I see now you want the list view (this is virtually
the same, in case
> you don't know this already, as the "active
appointments" view available
> in outlook).
>
> So, one thing you could do is open the other
person's calendar, and
> change the outlook view to be either "events" or
"active appointments",
> which would give you this list format.
>
> That's the only way I see for you to handle this;
however, GW could now
> easily implement this command as a script (and
perhaps eliminate their
> com add-in for outlook). They could give you the
info from the
> currently displayed calendar, rather than the
default one for your
> account, which when I tried it is what they're doing.
>
> That is, even though I had someone else's calendar
displayed, the insert
> C command gave me the info from mine.
>
> This should be easily scripted, so if you're into
scripts at all you
> could do this yourself right now.
>
> hth,
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Chip Orange
> Database Administrator
> Florida Public Service Commission
>
> Chip.Orange@psc.state.fl.us
> (850) 413-6314
>
> (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the
author and do not
> necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public
Service Commission.)
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chip Orange [mailto:Corange@PSC.STATE.FL.US]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 2:22 PM
> To: gw-info@gwmicro.com
> Subject: RE: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar
>
> John,
>
> I'm sorry, but I *still* don't understand
your question then?
>
> If you need to see someone else's calendar
in outlook, you
> would follow
> the steps I mentioned, then use the window
eyes calendar view you
> mentioned to give you the view of the
calendar you wanted.
>
> BTW, the command insert plus C gives me the
error message "word not
> found" in outlook 2003.
>
> I don't know what this command normally
does, does it open the outlook
> calendar folder for you, saving you the
trouble of using the outlook
> command control-2?
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Chip Orange
> Database Administrator
> Florida Public Service Commission
>
> Chip.Orange@psc.state.fl.us
> (850) 413-6314
>
> (Any opinions expressed are solely those
of the author and do not
> necessarily reflect those of the Florida
Public Service Commission.)
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Farley, John [OS-IE]
[mailto:JOHN.FARLEY@saic.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 9:42 AM
> To: Chip Orange; gw-info@gwmicro.com
> Subject: RE: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar
>
> Thanks for this Cjhip, but it did
not answer my question.
>
> I believe you have described the
"native" Outlook facility.
>
> I was look for a way of using the
Window-Eyes calendar view
>
>
> which you
>
>
> initiate with c
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> Regards, John.
>
> John Farley
>
**************************************************************
> *********
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mike@gwmicro.com
[mailto:mike@gwmicro.com] On Behalf Of Chip
> Orange
> Sent: 13 January 2009 14:36
> To: gw-info@gwmicro.com
> Subject: RE: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar
>
> Well, first, the other people in
question must give you permision
> through the outlook options, the
"delegates" tab.
>
> Once they've done this, you can see
their entire calendar via
> the "file
> | open" menu choices.
>
> Or, you can see their calendar
indirectly via trying to schedule a
> meeting and including them. it
will tell you if they're
>
>
> free or not.
>
>
> hth,
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Chip Orange
> Database Administrator
> Florida Public Service Commission
>
> Chip.Orange@psc.state.fl.us
> (850) 413-6314
>
> (Any opinions expressed are solely
those of the author and do not
> necessarily reflect those of the
Florida Public Service Commission.)
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Farley, John [OS-IE]
[mailto:JOHN.FARLEY@saic.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13,
2009 6:25 AM
> To: gw-info@gwmicro.com
> Subject: Window-Eyes
Outlook Calendar
>
> The facility that WE gives
of an easy view of the Outlook
>
>
> calendar is
>
>
> very useful and easy to use.
>
> It would be better if I
were able to look at other people's
>
>
> calendars
>
>
> as well as my own. Outlook
itself does allow this.
>
> Can it be done, and is so,
how please?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> Regards, John.
>
> John Farley
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