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From:
Aaron Smith <aaron@gwmicro.com>Subject:
Re: How to copy a column from an HTML tableDate:
Mon, Nov 19, 2012 9:12:00 amHi, Rod.
That gives me some ideas. I'll make a note to investigate this once 8.0
is shipping.
Thanks,
Aaron
On 11/16/2012 9:20 AM, Rod Hutton wrote:
> Hi Aaron,
>
> Yes, thank you very much, Aaron. I had gotten your suggestion a
> couple days ago. I was just wondering if it could be done using the
> DOM. I'm fairly new to scripting, and I have been reviewing some of
> the enumerations in the script reference, namely:
>
> Navigation:
> The Window-Eyes Object Model
>>
> Enumerations
>>
> AccessibleSelection
>
> Using the above enumeration, could we rite an app to go the top of the
> column, select that cell, and then simply extend the selection down to
> the bottom? I'm just brain-storming here.
>
> I really didn't want to use another software method, with having to
> delete table columns I don't want. This seems kind of awkward and not
> very classy for a dynamite software solution like Window-Eyes at our
> finger-tips. Smile.
>
> Besides, a while back I had read that it could be done. In fact, I
> just did a quick google, and here's a page where they're talking about
> it, and it sounds like one guy is on to something good:
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6619805/select-text-in-a-column-of-an-html-table
>
>
> On to another matter for a sec, Aaron. When the 8.0 beta-1 came out,
> I noticed that, on login, focus was not on the password field, and,
> with the beta-2, I'm seeing the same situation on my Windows 7 Home
> Premium, though not on my Windows 7 Ultimate. This is not too much
> trouble for me, since I'm savvy, and I know how to alt-tab to the
> field I need. It would be, however, a problem for the novice,
> especially if they start typing their password off of the field, and
> good old Window-Eyes echoes beautifally. Smile.
>
> All the best, Aaron,
>
> Rod Hutton
> -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Smith
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 8:32 AM
> To: gw-apps@gwmicro.com
> Subject: Re: How to copy a column from an HTML table
>
> Hi, Rod.
>
> You can still use the steps I provided to copy the entire table, and
> then remove the columns that you don't want using Word. Browsers
> typically don't let you select single columns in tables, which is why I
> was surprised when Martin had come up with a solution.
>
> The app simply creates a textrange between two nodes (the start point
> and end point), but, using the DOM, there's no way to get a start node
> of a column and end node of a column without getting all of the other
> table cells in between.
>
> I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but I don't believe you can do exactly
> what you want without a little editing.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Aaron
>
> On 11/15/2012 9:35 PM, Rod Hutton wrote:
>> Dear Martin,
>>
>> Your method only copies the contents of the cell you are in to the
>> clipboard, not the entire column.
>>
>> Take a look at this web page:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivor_(TV_series)
>>
>> Navigate to the second column, entitle Local "title," which, all the
>> way down to the bottom of the column, actually contains the titles of
>> all the seasons of Survivor.
>>
>> Now, say I want to copy and paste all these season titles into
>> Notepad all at once, that is, in one copy and paste operation. Your
>> method does not do this. It would require me to repeat the selection
>> and copy/paste operation one cell at a time, starting at the top of
>> the column, and going down down row by row.
>>
>> Nice try, but no cigar. Smile.
>>
>> Let's all keep on trying,
>>
>> Rod Hutton
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: martin webster
>> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 9:32 AM
>> To: gw-apps@gwmicro.com
>> Subject: RE: How to copy a column from an HTML table
>>
>> Hi Louis,
>> I am able to copy a single column of a table by doing the following:
>> Navigate to a table, enable table mode, control and equals. navigate
>> to the required column by using insert and appropriate cursor keys.
>> select all, control a, selects everything in that column or table
>> cell. copy to clipboard control c, and dump it to notepad. I have
>> tried this on three different kinds of tables thus far, and every
>> time this work for me. If this is not the case for you please give us
>> the web link and I'll give it a go. Hope this helps.
>> Warm regards.
>> Martin Webster.
>> I.T. director for Kirklees Visual Impairment Network.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Wed, 11/14/12, Louis <gosselin_louis@myfairpoint.net> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Louis <gosselin_louis@myfairpoint.net>
>>> Subject: RE: How to copy a column from an HTML table
>>> To: gw-apps@gwmicro.com
>>> Cc: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
>>> Date: Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 2:16 PM
>>> I hate to say this, but I sure can't
>>> make heads nor tails of this answer below. And I, too, would
>>> like to know how to copy a column from a table.
>>>
>>> Louis Gosselin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Aaron Smith [mailto:aaron@gwmicro.com]
>>>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 8:30 AM
>>> To: gw-apps@gwmicro.com
>>> Cc: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
>>> Subject: Re: How to copy a column from an HTML table
>>>
>>> Using the beta of Window-Eyes 8 and the latest IE Enhance
>>> app, you can use the Copy with Formatting feature do to
>>> this.
>>>
>>> Aaron
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/13/2012 8:56 PM, Rod Hutton wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> A big â
That gives me some ideas. I'll make a note to investigate this once 8.0
is shipping.
Thanks,
Aaron
On 11/16/2012 9:20 AM, Rod Hutton wrote:
> Hi Aaron,
>
> Yes, thank you very much, Aaron. I had gotten your suggestion a
> couple days ago. I was just wondering if it could be done using the
> DOM. I'm fairly new to scripting, and I have been reviewing some of
> the enumerations in the script reference, namely:
>
> Navigation:
> The Window-Eyes Object Model
>>
> Enumerations
>>
> AccessibleSelection
>
> Using the above enumeration, could we rite an app to go the top of the
> column, select that cell, and then simply extend the selection down to
> the bottom? I'm just brain-storming here.
>
> I really didn't want to use another software method, with having to
> delete table columns I don't want. This seems kind of awkward and not
> very classy for a dynamite software solution like Window-Eyes at our
> finger-tips. Smile.
>
> Besides, a while back I had read that it could be done. In fact, I
> just did a quick google, and here's a page where they're talking about
> it, and it sounds like one guy is on to something good:
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6619805/select-text-in-a-column-of-an-html-table
>
>
> On to another matter for a sec, Aaron. When the 8.0 beta-1 came out,
> I noticed that, on login, focus was not on the password field, and,
> with the beta-2, I'm seeing the same situation on my Windows 7 Home
> Premium, though not on my Windows 7 Ultimate. This is not too much
> trouble for me, since I'm savvy, and I know how to alt-tab to the
> field I need. It would be, however, a problem for the novice,
> especially if they start typing their password off of the field, and
> good old Window-Eyes echoes beautifally. Smile.
>
> All the best, Aaron,
>
> Rod Hutton
> -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Smith
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 8:32 AM
> To: gw-apps@gwmicro.com
> Subject: Re: How to copy a column from an HTML table
>
> Hi, Rod.
>
> You can still use the steps I provided to copy the entire table, and
> then remove the columns that you don't want using Word. Browsers
> typically don't let you select single columns in tables, which is why I
> was surprised when Martin had come up with a solution.
>
> The app simply creates a textrange between two nodes (the start point
> and end point), but, using the DOM, there's no way to get a start node
> of a column and end node of a column without getting all of the other
> table cells in between.
>
> I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but I don't believe you can do exactly
> what you want without a little editing.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Aaron
>
> On 11/15/2012 9:35 PM, Rod Hutton wrote:
>> Dear Martin,
>>
>> Your method only copies the contents of the cell you are in to the
>> clipboard, not the entire column.
>>
>> Take a look at this web page:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivor_(TV_series)
>>
>> Navigate to the second column, entitle Local "title," which, all the
>> way down to the bottom of the column, actually contains the titles of
>> all the seasons of Survivor.
>>
>> Now, say I want to copy and paste all these season titles into
>> Notepad all at once, that is, in one copy and paste operation. Your
>> method does not do this. It would require me to repeat the selection
>> and copy/paste operation one cell at a time, starting at the top of
>> the column, and going down down row by row.
>>
>> Nice try, but no cigar. Smile.
>>
>> Let's all keep on trying,
>>
>> Rod Hutton
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: martin webster
>> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 9:32 AM
>> To: gw-apps@gwmicro.com
>> Subject: RE: How to copy a column from an HTML table
>>
>> Hi Louis,
>> I am able to copy a single column of a table by doing the following:
>> Navigate to a table, enable table mode, control and equals. navigate
>> to the required column by using insert and appropriate cursor keys.
>> select all, control a, selects everything in that column or table
>> cell. copy to clipboard control c, and dump it to notepad. I have
>> tried this on three different kinds of tables thus far, and every
>> time this work for me. If this is not the case for you please give us
>> the web link and I'll give it a go. Hope this helps.
>> Warm regards.
>> Martin Webster.
>> I.T. director for Kirklees Visual Impairment Network.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Wed, 11/14/12, Louis <gosselin_louis@myfairpoint.net> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Louis <gosselin_louis@myfairpoint.net>
>>> Subject: RE: How to copy a column from an HTML table
>>> To: gw-apps@gwmicro.com
>>> Cc: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
>>> Date: Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 2:16 PM
>>> I hate to say this, but I sure can't
>>> make heads nor tails of this answer below. And I, too, would
>>> like to know how to copy a column from a table.
>>>
>>> Louis Gosselin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Aaron Smith [mailto:aaron@gwmicro.com]
>>>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 8:30 AM
>>> To: gw-apps@gwmicro.com
>>> Cc: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
>>> Subject: Re: How to copy a column from an HTML table
>>>
>>> Using the beta of Window-Eyes 8 and the latest IE Enhance
>>> app, you can use the Copy with Formatting feature do to
>>> this.
>>>
>>> Aaron
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/13/2012 8:56 PM, Rod Hutton wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> A big â
