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David <trailerdavid@hotmail.com>Subject:
Re: A Word about GWConnect AdsDate:
Fri, Aug 9, 2013 2:43:20 pmIf I get your idea right, I would think it to be a good compromise. Instead
of forcing the ads on people, let them have a hotkey for bringing them up.
Maybe when you hit that hotkey, a menu would show up, asking if you want
text ads, or the audio ads.
After all, if I pick up today's newspaper, yes it will hold an insert of
ads, or even have ads on several pages half way through the newspaper. The
thing is, I can choose to read them, or I can simply skip them. When I do a
search on the net, yes Yahoo and Google and the rest, they all throw some
ads on the screen. Still, I do have the choice to read, or to skip. At home,
in my physical mailbox, they want to drop numerous fliers. Depending on
where in the world you are living, there may be laws and restrictions on how
you can prevent them from doing so, but even if you helplessly are receiving
them, you still have the choice if you want to read or throw-away.
So, now that you so clearly want the software financed by ads, why do you
want to force them on people. Why not give them a choice of receiving the
info? And even better, now you could send ads to every user, since they now
will have to hit a hotkey to bring them up, even WE users could receive
them, meaning a greater market. First you have the hotkey and the suggested
menu, throw in a save-button, and let the users who wants, save the ad for
later reference.
GW, this way you won't be bothering anyone with the ads, everyone will still
have the access to the ads if they desire, you will still receive the
financial support from advertisers, you can have both text and audio ads,
noone wil be bothered by the ads popping up or drowning out their screen
reader; should really serve everyone's interest the best? And, it should be
a matter of a breeze to implement this into the software, first you get your
time to do so. Well, couldn't that be an idea, that each and everyone could
go with?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Warren Logan" <ariesthekid@gmail.com>
To: <gw-apps@gwmicro.com>
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 7:26 PM
Subject: RE: A Word about GWConnect Ads
> But that's why you have a hotkey that you press in gw connect to pop up
> the
> ads at will. Similar to the RS-Games way of doing it. You like something
> in
> the text? hit let's say ctrl alt A in the main connect window to bring up
> either a list of the last 5 ads or just the most recent one. again, I'm
> not
> saying that gw connect should be free of ads, just that audio ads are
> completely unnecessary and are just as inacccessible as the old text ads,
> making the whole thing pointless.
>
>
>
> Warren
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Skarstad [mailto:rascal0826@verizon.net]
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 11:23 AM
> To: gw-apps@gwmicro.com
> Subject: Re: A Word about GWConnect Ads
>
>
> Hi. Yep but then you have people complaining about popups, so either
> way, someone is gonna be annoyed. I do have to say, if I had to put up
> with adds I'd much rather have them be text-based. Take note of how
> RS Games does it, they're very nice, actually, if you're gonna do adds
> they do it in such a way that it's not annoying at all.
>
> On 8/9/2013 9:06 AM, Jo Taliaferro wrote:
>> What about people who need images to understand the ad and use large
>> print? I prefer text ads but I believe we need to take the target
>> audience into consideration .
>>
>> Jo taliaferro
>>
>> On Aug 9, 2013, at 5:30 AM, Chris H <christopherh40@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I would actually agree with all of you now. Text rather than audio ads
>> is the way to go.
>>
>> On 09/08/2013 09:56, Warren Logan wrote:
>>> Personally I don't get the point of having audio ads in software. You
>>> want to make ads more accessible, why not keep the ads as text ads
>>> and make a hotkey that puts the most recent ad in a box? I like the
>>> ads on programs like RS-Games because they are text ads. You have a
>>> choice whether you want to skip the ad or hear the full ad if you are
>>> interested in the product being discussed. If you are interested in
>>> the product you can hit a hotkey and you get an email with the ad
>>> along with a link to the website of the product. I would think that
>>> having audio ads thae people have no control over what so ever would
>>> make new people shy away from the software altogether. Just putting
>>> that out there.
>>>
>>>
>>> Warren
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Aaron Smith [mailto:aaron@gwmicro.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 9:46 AM
>>> To: gw-apps@gwmicro.com
>>> Subject: A Word about GWConnect Ads
>>>
>>>
>>> You know the very first thing I see when I log into Facebook?
>>>
>>> "About Ads: Ever wonder how Facebook makes money? Get the Details"
>>>
>>> You can't pay to get rid of Facebook ads, either. You use Facebook,
>>> you get ads. Period.
>>>
>>> Twitter, the medium on which we were originally bashed for including
>>> ads when GWConnect was first released, is itself riddled with ads.
>>> Companies pay for "promoted trends" which are the same things as ads
>>> that show up when you search. Do a google search, get ads. There is a
>>> ton of ad based marketing that goes on the majority of websites that
>>> you visit, in the spam you receive, in the ads in between TV shows,
>>> in the theater before a movie. Billboards on the highway, inserts in
>>> magazines. Open the Sunday paper, and enough advertising will fall
>>> out to drown your cat.
>>>
>>> The capitalist society we live in, like it or not, thrives on
>>> advertising. The real issue is that, until GWConnect, the visually
>>> impaired community hasn't had to deal with its intrusiveness like
>>> sighted people do. The ads are not going away; they're beneficial to
>>> the advertisers, and those who are interested in the content.
>>>
>>> So, there are four ways to use GWConnect:
>>>
>>> 1. Use the free/ad-based GWConnect, accepting that you will
>>> occasionally hear audio ads. 2. Purchase an ad-free subscription to
>>> GWConnect. 3. Purchase a copy of Window-Eyes, which will remove all
>>> ads.
>>>
>>> If none of those options are for you, there's the fourth option:
>>> don't use GWConnect. The official Skype client is available at
>>> http://www.skype.com/go/getskype.
>>>
>>> While the medium we decide to use to distribute ad content is solely
>>> up to us, I will agree with one ad-gripe: the audio should be
>>> normalized amongst all of the audio ads. When an ads starts playing,
>>> it shouldn't cause you to fall out of your chair due to its volume. I
>>> think we can do better in that area.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Aaron
>>>
>
>
of forcing the ads on people, let them have a hotkey for bringing them up.
Maybe when you hit that hotkey, a menu would show up, asking if you want
text ads, or the audio ads.
After all, if I pick up today's newspaper, yes it will hold an insert of
ads, or even have ads on several pages half way through the newspaper. The
thing is, I can choose to read them, or I can simply skip them. When I do a
search on the net, yes Yahoo and Google and the rest, they all throw some
ads on the screen. Still, I do have the choice to read, or to skip. At home,
in my physical mailbox, they want to drop numerous fliers. Depending on
where in the world you are living, there may be laws and restrictions on how
you can prevent them from doing so, but even if you helplessly are receiving
them, you still have the choice if you want to read or throw-away.
So, now that you so clearly want the software financed by ads, why do you
want to force them on people. Why not give them a choice of receiving the
info? And even better, now you could send ads to every user, since they now
will have to hit a hotkey to bring them up, even WE users could receive
them, meaning a greater market. First you have the hotkey and the suggested
menu, throw in a save-button, and let the users who wants, save the ad for
later reference.
GW, this way you won't be bothering anyone with the ads, everyone will still
have the access to the ads if they desire, you will still receive the
financial support from advertisers, you can have both text and audio ads,
noone wil be bothered by the ads popping up or drowning out their screen
reader; should really serve everyone's interest the best? And, it should be
a matter of a breeze to implement this into the software, first you get your
time to do so. Well, couldn't that be an idea, that each and everyone could
go with?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Warren Logan" <ariesthekid@gmail.com>
To: <gw-apps@gwmicro.com>
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 7:26 PM
Subject: RE: A Word about GWConnect Ads
> But that's why you have a hotkey that you press in gw connect to pop up
> the
> ads at will. Similar to the RS-Games way of doing it. You like something
> in
> the text? hit let's say ctrl alt A in the main connect window to bring up
> either a list of the last 5 ads or just the most recent one. again, I'm
> not
> saying that gw connect should be free of ads, just that audio ads are
> completely unnecessary and are just as inacccessible as the old text ads,
> making the whole thing pointless.
>
>
>
> Warren
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Skarstad [mailto:rascal0826@verizon.net]
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 11:23 AM
> To: gw-apps@gwmicro.com
> Subject: Re: A Word about GWConnect Ads
>
>
> Hi. Yep but then you have people complaining about popups, so either
> way, someone is gonna be annoyed. I do have to say, if I had to put up
> with adds I'd much rather have them be text-based. Take note of how
> RS Games does it, they're very nice, actually, if you're gonna do adds
> they do it in such a way that it's not annoying at all.
>
> On 8/9/2013 9:06 AM, Jo Taliaferro wrote:
>> What about people who need images to understand the ad and use large
>> print? I prefer text ads but I believe we need to take the target
>> audience into consideration .
>>
>> Jo taliaferro
>>
>> On Aug 9, 2013, at 5:30 AM, Chris H <christopherh40@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I would actually agree with all of you now. Text rather than audio ads
>> is the way to go.
>>
>> On 09/08/2013 09:56, Warren Logan wrote:
>>> Personally I don't get the point of having audio ads in software. You
>>> want to make ads more accessible, why not keep the ads as text ads
>>> and make a hotkey that puts the most recent ad in a box? I like the
>>> ads on programs like RS-Games because they are text ads. You have a
>>> choice whether you want to skip the ad or hear the full ad if you are
>>> interested in the product being discussed. If you are interested in
>>> the product you can hit a hotkey and you get an email with the ad
>>> along with a link to the website of the product. I would think that
>>> having audio ads thae people have no control over what so ever would
>>> make new people shy away from the software altogether. Just putting
>>> that out there.
>>>
>>>
>>> Warren
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Aaron Smith [mailto:aaron@gwmicro.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 9:46 AM
>>> To: gw-apps@gwmicro.com
>>> Subject: A Word about GWConnect Ads
>>>
>>>
>>> You know the very first thing I see when I log into Facebook?
>>>
>>> "About Ads: Ever wonder how Facebook makes money? Get the Details"
>>>
>>> You can't pay to get rid of Facebook ads, either. You use Facebook,
>>> you get ads. Period.
>>>
>>> Twitter, the medium on which we were originally bashed for including
>>> ads when GWConnect was first released, is itself riddled with ads.
>>> Companies pay for "promoted trends" which are the same things as ads
>>> that show up when you search. Do a google search, get ads. There is a
>>> ton of ad based marketing that goes on the majority of websites that
>>> you visit, in the spam you receive, in the ads in between TV shows,
>>> in the theater before a movie. Billboards on the highway, inserts in
>>> magazines. Open the Sunday paper, and enough advertising will fall
>>> out to drown your cat.
>>>
>>> The capitalist society we live in, like it or not, thrives on
>>> advertising. The real issue is that, until GWConnect, the visually
>>> impaired community hasn't had to deal with its intrusiveness like
>>> sighted people do. The ads are not going away; they're beneficial to
>>> the advertisers, and those who are interested in the content.
>>>
>>> So, there are four ways to use GWConnect:
>>>
>>> 1. Use the free/ad-based GWConnect, accepting that you will
>>> occasionally hear audio ads. 2. Purchase an ad-free subscription to
>>> GWConnect. 3. Purchase a copy of Window-Eyes, which will remove all
>>> ads.
>>>
>>> If none of those options are for you, there's the fourth option:
>>> don't use GWConnect. The official Skype client is available at
>>> http://www.skype.com/go/getskype.
>>>
>>> While the medium we decide to use to distribute ad content is solely
>>> up to us, I will agree with one ad-gripe: the audio should be
>>> normalized amongst all of the audio ads. When an ads starts playing,
>>> it shouldn't cause you to fall out of your chair due to its volume. I
>>> think we can do better in that area.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Aaron
>>>
>
>
